You are kidding right. “ extremely easy” ? You did read the 8 pages of instructions ? The form filling is preceded by the instructions that you consult a lawyer prior to putting pencil to paper. Assuming you aren’t a lawyer yourself, how is it easily accomplishing anything ? Lawyers aren’t free. You wait up to 12 months for approval while they check every mole on your backside. You got me.
yes, extremely easy. If you can legally own a handgun, you can walk into any class 3 dealer in your state and buy a machine gun. I have transferred hundreds of class 3 weapons to customers over a 3 year period. Form 4's are EXTREMELY easy to fill out. No lawyer required. No lawyer is required to own a class 3 weapon. yes, the ability to read apparently. you're comparing apples to space stations. buying a class 3 weapon is extremely easy. The dealer does most of the work for you. All you have to do is get a passport photo, finger print card and fill out the form 4, and pay the $200 tax stamp.
With the Silencer Shop kiosk, it's even easier. Takes about 15 minutes, including scanning your fingerprints and using their app to take and transfer a photo. They check the e-file for accuracy before submitting it to ATF, and their system stores your data for a year to make any subsequent filings even easier and quicker.
It certainly is not, you must first file paperwork with BATFE, and get a signoff by a CLEO, or have a trust, pay a $200 tax, and there must be proof that the gun is properly owned, and in the hands of the correct person. It is Not extremely easy, and a civilian transferable machine gun, like an M-16 will cost around $ 30,000, so how is that easy ?
Thirty Thousand Dollars for a transferable Machine Gun, most people cannot afford to spend that much money on one gun. The processes have been streamlined, that does not make it so easy or cheap. There are requirements.
With e-file enabled by the SilencerShop in their kiosks located in 2,177 gun shops across the country. Here's the process: https://www.silencershop.com/how-to-buy-a-silencer It takes no longer than 30 minutes the first time to get set up, enter your data, scan your fingerprints and take a photo. You can even pay online for the tax stamp. There's no CLEO signoff requirement anymore for most purchases. Once you've entered all the data, it's good for a year. I purchased a tax stamp for an SBR Form 1 using my home PC and leveraged all of the data I had already submitted. Entered my CC number and I was done. Now I'm just waiting. The cost of a machine gun has nothing to do with the ease or difficulty of the process. Seriously, it would be hard to make it any easier.
I was talking about a transferable M-16 for instance. And yes, I know the cost of a short barreled rifle or shotgun. I am not a freaking new guy to firearms. Try not to be too ridiculous here. Oh, BTW and FYI, You can get a standard Remington 870 for around 300 dollars, an AOW or short barreled shotgun will cost around $ 600 - $ 800.... And you better have your photocopy in your possesion along with your SBS or SBR.
Then stop cherry picking the claim that NFA purchases are easy. They are. Ease of purchase has nothing to do with the cost of a machinegun.
To say it is so easy is disingenuous and mendacious flagrante, you need to get prior BATF approval before purchase of a transferable machine gun, pay a $200 tax and also need either a CLEO sign off or a trust set up, and a disposable Thirty thousand dollars. Approval can take months. It must be legal to own a machine gun in your particular jurisdiction too. If you can sink Thirty Grand into one gun, I am impressed, I cannot...... It is not easy.
Nothing in this list is difficult. It can be expensive. It can require a long wait. They effort required is scarcely more than filling out a Form 4473, and unlike a Form 4473, all of this effort can be reused in the future.
A machine gun is for all intents and purposes actually a NOVELTY, a most expensive NOVELTY, and has very limited uses. A machine gun in use in full auto, has a very distinct signature. Aside from events at Knob creek or other machine gun events, there is very little practical use for a machine gun.
it aint that common, no need to jerk a knee... we should spend triple on 'dod' so we dont end up like france or the rest of the eu...
Bollocks! The US has one of the highest death-rates due to guns of any developed nation! For your edification, see here: The States With The Most Gun Laws See The Fewest Gun-Related Deaths What planet do you live on ... ?
List of countries by firearm-related death rate Note that America has a death-rate per 100K of population of nearly "12". Note also:
Note, there is an element involved called Criminals, these people commit something called "Crimes" and oftentimes use a gun to rob a convenience store, these are people already prohibited from owning or using firearms. People involved in the illegal drug trade, use firearms as tools of enforcement of criminal activity, drive by shootings and killing of rival gang members. There was recently a case involving a police officer supplying firearms to prohibited people. Gun control as noble as it sounds, does nothing to eliminate illegal possession of firearms by already prohibited persons engaged in criminal behavior.
If by easy, you decide you have Thirty Thousand Dollars to spend on ONE GUN, So, you see something you like, a transferable M-16 that is not really worth more than $ 1,000 and are willing to pay that much for it. First you need a CLEO to sign off on your paperwork or form a trust, apply to BATF and pay a $200 tax and wait months for approval to purchase and take possession of your machine gun. Once you have it, you are limited as to what you can actually do with it. Aside from specific machine gun events like Knob Creek, a machine gun such as a vintage transferable Thompson, is a novelty more than anything else. There are very concise regulations, and you just cannot decide to use a machine gun as if it were an ordinary firearm.
Your definition of "EASY" differs from everyone else's definition of "EASY".... A machine gun is a very expensive novelty and a liability for the most part. Aside from owning perhaps a relic from the past, you just cannot take your pet machine gun anywhere and shoot it or take it with you anywhere, and you must have your photocopy with you at all times while in possession of said machine gun.
Young black mâles kill each other at an alarming rate in turf wars, gang related strife, in an effort to control illegal drug trade, drive by shootings, bullets meant to kill a rival miss and kill a child or other innocent bystander. These deaths are misunderstood in other countries that do not have gang violence and a burgeoning illegal highly competitive drug trade. If you see how rappers glorify illegal use and possession of firearms and killing the competition, you might better understand what is happening and who is killing who, and guns are indirectly involved.
Such only holds up if one limits the category "developed nations" to nations that have a largely homogeneous, non-diverse population. Once the population is a diversified population, such is no longer the case as violence levels increase significantly.
