Israel intelligence helped US kill Soleimani

Not more equal, morally superior—Israel is the only nation in the Middle East with a political system and government that defends and protects the most sacred, the most holy of holies of all moral political principles, freedom of thought, the foundation of a free society. The rest of the Middle East is ruled by totalitarian madmen, thugs, and rabid rats.

 

Not sure how the Jews intend to dominate, say, China.
or America, or even sad old Europe. But if it allows the
Arabs to dominate her that could be another holocaust
for the Jews.
The Jews are called Semites, meaning a language group.
Same as Arabs. If you see a Jewish woman who is Jewish
by ancestry and strictly Orthodox religious you are seeing
basically what Jews looked like 2,000 years ago. The DNA
has stayed remarkably exact because there wasn't a lot of
infidelity within religious Jewish women, otherwise it would
show.

 

No, they are considered less equal.
They have been pushed from pillar to post.
They are now facing persecution in Western
nations, but they can't go back to Israel
"because" that's now Arab land.
So what other people are told to go home but
when they get home they are told to leave
there as well? Only the Jew.

 

Can you not see how Western media, academics, and socioeconomic culture has spread throughout the globe? You have third-wave feminists teaching students in Hong Kong; individuals viewing R-rated films in Saudi Arabia; and usury-based finance being conducted all over the world.

Now, it just so happens that the individuals who are most prominent and influential in all those fields are Jews. What a coincidence! They are a talented and intelligent people, yes, but also a rebellious one (see worship of calf).

Now, this doesn’t mean that all Jews are bad. However, it just so happens that the leaders of the Jewish people are in bed with the devil (again, see worship of calf).

Of course, the usual suspects will still cry “antisemite!”; but that’s only because their minds have been conditioned to a high degree by Steven Spielberg movies.

 

yeah, it sounds anti-Semitic.
The Jews are what, about one or two percent of the world's population?
Not sure if the Jews control a single company in China, for instance. And
China is like five or six Americas rolled into one.

Your argument reminds me of the old Rothschild conspiracy. As Jews
this family controls the world. I Googled the topic - there's one Rothschild
in the top 1000 American super-rich, coming in about 700 or 800. And he's
not even related to the old Rothschild. Meanwhile the Rothschild conspiracy,
like that of the Masons, continues.

 

So what? As I argued, they are a gifted peoples. They may be a small population in America for example, but there are numerous of Jews in places of politics and power. Again, they are a determined and educated peoples, so it’s really no surprise....

Forget about Chinese companies... I’m talking banks; I’m talking money supply! For example, you yourself mention the Rothschilds, which is a Jewish family that owns a major world-wide bank. Money is power in this world, and Jews have the money, whether or not people like to admit it.

 

Really? America's policy in the middle east comes straight from Israel and the Israel lobby. No red blooded American wants to be involved in that part of the world whatsoever.

 

True. But "Israel" itself represents a project that incorporates and incorporated from the beginning two groups which, while pretending to work for the Jews and for a Jewish homeland, were working on something in its oppoise

The first group would be what we call "Christian Zionists" these days. Their foot soldiers are deranged evangelicals looking for Rapture and such things. The military industrial lobby and other forms of imperialist lobbies feed the nonsense among them.

The second group are very much akin to the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis during WWII.(1) They were the Jews who become very successful within "Western civilization" and were collaborating with the powers, in undermining whatever real content the term "Jew" might have once had while working with the Christian Zionists to establish a colonial outpost in the Middle East.

In this process, the majority of the Jews were never really consulted nor represented in what was being done in their name as part of this project. The same way the early Zionist movement didn't represent the sentiments of either orthodox Jews (who considered Zionism blasphemy and heresy) or most secular Jews (who were instead interested in assimilating within the nations they were found, not moving elsewhere), those who today are behind the Greater Israel project, and the neocon alliance working with them, find most Jews voting against them. In fact, some of the most vociferous opponents of the neocons and the war party are Jews.
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(1)On why I consider ultra Zionist Jews akin to Nazi collaborators, that is a long story and not about one thing or another only. But one reason, and the simplest to explain here, is this: they are working with the most genuinely anti-Semitic people still around, on a project whose ultimate objective isn't worried about Jews but (for their elites, using them as fodder in their neocolonial empire and, for their foot soldiers, to bring about Rupture).

That is where we are now. And pushing a war against IRAN in the name of and on behalf, ostensibly, of Jews (a people whose identity, religion, and history, is hugely influenced by IRAN) is part of the irony that makes so much of history ultimately the old cosmic battle in ancient Iranian mythology and religion: as a battlefield between good and evil, with falsehood the true face of evil.

 

You can say that the Rothschilds have mostly lost their wealth.
Wealth doesn't stay in a family more than a few generations.
The Americans with wealth now are mostly gentiles - think
Bezos, Gates, Musk, Zuckerberg etc..

 

Iranian monitor - look at it this way.
This self-called Alexander the Great, the one who torched Persepolis.
Imagine if he drove every Persian out of Iran.
Caused the Persians to be scattered all over the Greek world as slaves.
And worse, people hated Persians for centuries and persecuted them.
In the end, after seriously dreadful things happened, people felt sympathy
for the Persians and allowed them to go home.
But other people lived there, like the Kurds.
So the world divided Iran into a Kurd area and a Persian area. But the
Kurds felt they would fight forever, even if it impoverished them. They
hoped to get sympathy by showing the Persians to be conquerors.

This is the lot of the "wandering Jew."

 

Christian Zionists? Are they the incestuous children of the Trilateral Commission? or the illegitimate children of the Knights Templar? Or has someone's neural network shorted out?

BTW: Is Palestinian life expectancy longer in Israel or Palestine? And are more Palestinians killed by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinian Authority, or by Israeli Defense Forces?

And isn't true that greatest threat to the Palestians is not the liberty Israel offers, but goon squads of the Palestian Authority.

And lastly, is it pyshcoloigally difficult supporting evil and murdering morality?

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I look at it in the way that is most relevant in the context of actual history and contemporary politics. Otherwise, those who would be the most sympathetic towards the Jews as it relates to the plight of the Jews when anti-Semitic sentiments in Europe were particularly virulent ( sentiments which viewed "Jews" as an alien, "eastern", and pernicious presence in their communities), are those who are most opposed to everything Israel stands for. Which is not to say that there aren't those in the group I mentioned, namely those who are opposed to Israel and its policies and practices, who wouldn't have been willing to close their eyes on what some, limited, permutations of the Zionist project might have entailed in simply establishing a "Jewish homeland" and accepted a Jewish homeland in Palestine in light of what had happened to the Jews in Europe.

My own view on the issue is as follows: the establishment of the state of Israel by western colonial powers made it an alien colonial outpost. The same way that the establishment of a "Kurdish state" by these same folks would do the same for the Kurds, even if the Kurds are historically an "Iranian people". I would, otherwise, find a Jewish homeland in the same area, built on the basis of indigenous alliances which would serve as a magnate to bring home Jews from Europe and elsewhere, and one without the kind of Nazi-like ideology of present day Zionism, something that IRAN (if no one else in the region) would have had great reason to support. Indeed, you might not realize this, but it was an Iranian monarch, Naser din Shah, that was among the first people to mention a permutation of what became the Zionist project in a meeting he had with Baron de Rothschild while touring Europe in the 19th century and discussing the plight of the Jews with him.

 

Long before the European troubles for the Jews there were Jews immigrating
to Palestine. They were buying up land from the Arabs and the Turks. And many
locals hated them for this, despite enjoying the building of roads, bridges, hospitals
and boosting the economy.
Jezreel Valley was purchased from the Turks, the swamps were drained the farms
and homes built there - much to the surprise of the Arabs. Today the Arabs say the
Jews "stole" the Jezreel from them.

 

Israel is a free nation, the Palestinians want an Islamic Dictatorship. Everything else is smoke and mirrors erected to hide this fundamental truth, and a colossal waste of time and energy. It’s not who “breathed” the first air, it’s what they plan on doing as they “breathe” that air—murder, terrorize, and establish a religious dictatorship, or fight to live one’s life as a free being.

 

Well, Zuckerberg is Jewish. And none of the other names you mentioned are even bankers. They don’t control the money supply.

 

Only a small portion of Palestinian land was bought by Jews, and the Ottoman Empire was disallowing Jews to immigrate en mass to the Holy Land. It was European powers that allowed the Jews to immigrate uncontrollably to Palestine.

Of course, the usual suspects will still blame the evil Arabs, even though it was white Christians/secularists who were killing Jews in Europe. America even sent back a ship of European Jews who were fleeing Europe.

And then these hypocritical trash want to talk about how eviiil Moozlims are... mind boggling!

 

You do realize you with this opinion here you actually managed to derail your own thread? You didn't even make it past the first page before once again again taking any subject, any thread, and interjecting your HAMAS supportive propaganda of the boohoo Palestinian plight.

Now as to comments of why Israel didnt get her war with Iran or why this didn't escalate? It's quite simple..its an election year and right now American public sentiment is that Iran isnt an imminent threat. They would need too to do something much more severe than what led to this conflict. But dont you all worry , after Trump is reelected and let's be honest it's very likely...then we will blow up Iran. It's what American Presidents do..kinda like that feather in your hat you kinda want. Bush blew up Iraq, Obama Afghanistan and Libya and god knows what else...and Trumps gonna blow up Iran to effect regime change. It's kinda our thing

 

Do you really think the US needs another country to know data as simple as who is a rider in the sky?

 

In which one?
It would be interesting to know.
In which western country a particulate state persecuted Jews?

 

Can you probably name some Anti-Jews laws?

 

Not in the USA. By executive order Jews are now included in Title 6 law as a protected minority.

 

The argument is pointless—heritage is not justification for anything.

 

Correct. If you want new territory go to war and win it.

 

Who ever said it was?

 

Everyone who thinks the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is about geography, history, or who did what or who went first.

Israeli is a moral nation that is built upon the fundamental principle of "Freedom of Thought." The Palestinians want to erect an outlaw nation whose fundamental principle is "bow your head to Allah, or lose it", as does every other Islamic nation, including the traitorousTurkey. The Palestinians have no right to self-determination any more than Cannibals do.

Ayn Rand: "The right of “the self-determination of nations” applies only to free societies or to societies seeking to establish freedom; it does not apply to dictatorships. Just as an individual’s right of free action does not include the “right” to commit crimes (that is, to violate the rights of others), so the right of a nation to determine its own form of government does not include the right to establish a slave society (that is, to legalize the enslavement of some men by others). There is no such thing as “the right to enslave.” A nation can do it, just as a man can become a criminal—but neither can do it by right."

Israeli Freedom vs. Palestinian Authoritarianism