Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

Are you suggesting their policy was okay with what Chauvin did? I don't think so and the police department testified Chauvin ignored his training. Chauvin needs to present evidence his actions were consistent with his training when he get the chance.

 

You have a question both sides would do well to address.

 

There wasn't any strenuous exercise or fight prior to being held down on the ground

 

You're missing the crucial words, "while actively resisting"

 

You previously claimed Chauvin was trained, certified, authorized to do this. But your source says the opposite.

Your source says Chauvin was trained about the deadly consequences of such chocking.
Your source puts forth an expert saying Chauvin was not in any kind of danger, and so not allowed to use deadly force.
So he was trained to do the opposite in this case.

He was not trained to choke people as far as I can see in your source.
You source actually says:
...never advocated for training that teaches an officer to place a knee on someone’s neck...

Thanks.

 

The Medical Examiner testified that the death was not due to asphyxiation, that you cannot choke someone by putting pressure on the back of the neck and that there was no sign of such a pressure. It was not due to the coronary arteries being constricted. It was because of his existing heart condition, the drugs in his system and then the struggle with police the struggle HE caused to happen. His heart could not take that strain and he died.

 

And if the have reason to believe he may actively resist again it is their training to keep them immobilized until they can be transported.

 

He didn't say anything like that!

 

Quite hard to actively resist when you're dead

 

Then why was the witness, the older black gentlemen, on camera screaming at Floyd to stop fighting, to give it up and submit to the arrest, that he was going to give himself a heart attack? Why do we see it on the body cams?

 

He testified exactly to that and since it is very apparent you are not watching the trial nor have viewed all the body cam footage your denials are dismissed.

 

The evidence, especially when reviewed in detail and supported by expert witnesses is nearly incontrovertible. Even police expert witnesses from trainers to Chauvin's superiors have been heavily and unanimously unfavorable to the defense ... so far. The defense's tactics can only be to try to create doubt in one juror's mind, but we have not heard from the defense's expert witnesses yet.

Juries are unpredictable and more often than not tend to support police so no bet is ever a sure thing in these cases.

That depends on the makeup of the jury but racists are racists and if there are any on the jury, the answer is yes.

 

See above, you don't even know the sequence of events or the testimony given.

 

I do know man, you can find videos on the internet that shows the fight.

 

Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck for around three minutes after Floyd died even after being told that a pulse can't be found. You have no clue about the sequence of events

 

The ME said under oath it was due to subdual restraint the neck compression, and that he put that in his report as the TOP LINE and he is sticking by it. He also said under oath, every other thing is not a direct cause. So your ongoing attempts to claim it was due drugs and the ME said this, is just total bs.



Other medical experts testified that no healthy person would survive what Chauvin did,
and Floyd wouldn't have died from his underlying problems that day at all.
So they have put the blame completely on Chauvin.

 

The pulmonogist's testimony was the most compelling to date and fully established the substantial causal factor to Floyd's murder. It was further corroborated by the forensic pathologist and the medical examiner. Drugs and Floyd's medical condition were only a contributory factor (if that) but not the causal factor. That was made quite clear by the testimony of all 3 expert witnesses. Deny all you want, it makes no difference except to you.

 

The defense tactic is to show the prosecution does not have a case of guilty.

Did you watch the Medical Examiner today?

The day after the autopsy he told the county attorney's it was NOT a death by asphyxiation but caused by his existing heart disease complicated by the drugs in his system and the exertion and strain cause by his resisting arrest.
That the Chauvin's knee did not strangle or block Floyd's ability to breath.
That in fact you cannot cause that to happen with a knee to the back of the neck in the manner it was applied to Floyd.
That the arteries to the brain were not constricted.
The he had a lethal dose of drugs in his system.

 

Drugs were a contributor, he had a lethal dose and it was his HEART due to the advanced heart disease and the stress of his resisting arrest which caused the officers to have to physically struggle with him and with him eventually being on the ground.

YES there was a struggle with the police and they had to restrain him and that with everything caused the cardio pulmonary arrest which killed him, not the knee to the back, not asphyxiation caused by the police not because his carotid's were blocked.

 

I don't discuss anything with dishonest posters, I thought I made that clear to you.

 

Because he's not a drugs expert, but an expert on breathing. And he did say he died because of what Chauvin did, while other experts testified it was not an OD.
The drug he took... it breaks down in your body in other products. That only happens when you're alive for some time, and not when you OD.
Floyd had plenty of them broken down products and nothing in his stomach. Hence it can not be an OD.

 

I have more faith in people than you do. I think it's likely all twelve jurors will take an honest look at the evidence.

 

I just sourced that the ME said it was the knee in the neck. So you know.... it's 2021 where we're done with fake news and pure dishonesty.

And you are casually naming "contributor factor" as if it's a main cause or a reason to dismiss this all. It's quiet the opposite.
We can all ignore any kind of contributor factor. It's all about the main cause. It is so, hence the ME calls it a HOMOCIDE, as in SOMEBODY killed Floyd.
He doesn't call it a suicide or an OD. Stick to facts.

 

He absolutely should ...unless he's made some sort of deal behind the scenes. It wouldn't be the first time someone has taken a lighter sentence to accept fault they didn't deserve. Tho it might be the first time a cop was on the shaft end of such a deal...

 

Thats part of the problem with the choke hold. In some cases it causes people to 'actively resist' as an involuntary reflex to being suffocated, and in other cases its impossible for the officer to tell when 'resistance' has ceased.