Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever heard the expression: "Everyone is out of step but Johnny"?
     
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    Thats called history.
    Nice try!
     
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    @Ronstar even yardmeats solution was the same as hitlers he admitted he would exterminate me if I disrupted his sovereign household by undermining the way he governs it!

    You avoided responding altogether! Im sure readers would insist on hearing your response to that political problem.

    Yardmeat did exactly as I would expect him AND YOU to do if you were in the same situation!

    That is neither hate, genocide nor persecution, so how do you get off making such claims?

    So respond to the problem with your solution.
     
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    None of these defenses of the Nazi regime matter a damn. The ovens existed, the starving and emaciated bodies were real. So we're the gas chambers designed for mass extermination and nothing else. The fact that the Nazis murdered Gypsies, homosexuals, and the handicapped along with Jews, does not make what they did to Jews less vile, it merely magnifies their over all villainy.

    One can at this late date but wish that Hitler had paid a bit more heed to Nietzsche's warning about hunting monsters.
     
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    Thats true for people with no sense of justice.

    Those with a sense of justice want to dig into the matter and understand all the facts before condemning someone and passing judgment.
    Just because they exted means nothing, gotta do better than that if you wanna convince me.
    What caused the starving? Hitler? I dont think so!
    We know Eisenhower hated the Germans and murdered millions with HIS starvation policies.
    How come?
    Everyone knows you are wrong about that, did you ever look into it?
    Im pretty sure the transports were used for extermination, no gas chambers, but if you have evidence Id love to see and review it.
    fact? I didnt see any evidence from you demonstrating its remotely true much less a fact.
     
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    This was literally in regards to you telling someone that, because they were not American, they had no business talking about our history. You are losing track of your own posts. Please read the actual posts.
     
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    Nazi Boss Hitler caused most of the Nazi crimes. Some Germans might be died under Eisenhower's rule but that wasn't intentional. :(
     
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    Yeah for being Jewish and finding ways to prosper in the most difficult of circumstances.But
    Dude all of this is known from the Germans own records.
     
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    Hitler hated alot of people. This is well documented. And?
     
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    Hitler hated most all people. And?
     
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    Jews in particular. And we have a faction (particularly on the right) that tends to deny that. If you aren't interested in what people have to say about history, maybe don't respond to a thread where that is the topic?
     
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    It doesn't look like anyone is defending the Nazi regime as much as they are debunking profitable anti German slander.

    I think that most people understand that it was not only the "other side" that used propaganda but that the Allies used atrocity propaganda to demonize the Germans.
    The problem is that the war has long been over but the anti German propaganda continues 80 years later.

    Apparently, you have been a victim of the same, old, staged(1) Allied atrocity propaganda that everyone has seen.

    It's important to remember that as the camps were liberated the war was still on so that demonizing and demoralizing the Germans with atrocity propaganda became a compulsion of America's propaganda ministry, the OWI: Office of War Information, Hollywood's top movie makers for effect and the international, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry with it's phony "human skin" lampshades, shrunken heads and other grisly props.

    I'm interested to hear your responses to the questions posed by @Kokomojojo and would be happy to discuss them with you too.

    Thanks,



    (1)“The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder


    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED
     
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    I find this thread incredibly sad. First because there are so many people willing to defend the odious Nazi, regime
    That is, in and of itself, quite sad but worse is that no one is willing to draw any real conclusions from it even as we inch ever closer to yet another round of global blood letting this time with arsenals of nuclear weapons waiting in the wings.

    First let me disabuse you of the notion that there are any communists involved in the coming blood bath. There aren't any and never really have been. What we have here is various species oligarchies and military dictatorships.
     
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    On the contrary, I am trying to understand the purpose of a thread that claims Hitler hated people.....we already know that.

    Thanks for revealing the real purpose of this thread is to smear political opponents. How about having a real discussion about a real topic.

    No one defends Hitler these days. Perhaps there are disagreements about historical fact but other than that there is no need to bother.
     
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    So historical facts need to agree with your political leanings.....sad.
     
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    No fact is fact. I toured one back in the seventies when I was in the army. Historical facts need to deal with the evidence and eye witness accounts at the time. Holocaust denial is a bs cottage industry.
     
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    "Holocaust denial" is when folks deny the Holocaust ever happened. It isn't when folks disagree over history.

    Typical....

    Imagine folks having an opinion on an opinion section of a forum. You are upset because folks disagree with you.
     
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    What nonsense is is being taught in European schools today?

    Hitler was no more of a war criminal than any of the other WW 2 leaders. The only reason he is portrayed in such a negative light is because the victors write the history.

    Churchill is directly responsible for the deliberate starvation of millions in India and was more interested in "roasting" German refugees than ending the war:

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.”

    Prime Minister Winston Churchill
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/

    Eisenhower is responsible for the deliberate starvation of about one million German POWs.
    The proof is in his starvation order:

    "Eisenhower's Starvation Order"
    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/ike.htm

    EXCERPT "Copies of the orders were discovered recently in several villages near the Rhine ... The message [which Bacque reproduces] reads in part: "... under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to the prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot...."

    Eisenhower's order was also posted in English, German and Polish on the bulletin board of Military Government Headquarters in Bavaria, signed by the Chief of Staff of the Military Governor of Bavaria. Later it was posted in Polish in Straubing and Regensburg, where there were many Polish guard companies at nearby camps. One US Army officer who read the posted order in May 1945 has written that it was "the intention of Army command regarding the German POW camps in the US Zone from May 1945 through the end of 1947 to exterminate as many POWs as the traffic would bear without international scrutiny." CONTINUED


    Stalin's horrific crimes are, of course, well known but, thanks to Hollywood and its complicit Holocaust Industry, it is only Hitler and and the Germans that are repeatedly cast as the most barbaric of WW 2's participants.
     
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    Thank you.

    The term "Holocaust denier" is a deliberately deceptive misnomer used to distort the views of individuals capable of independent thought whose research has exposed the standard Holocaust narrative for the profitable and slanderous fraud that it is.

    Has everyone forgotten the early deliberate hoaxes of the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry when they tried to deceive the world into thinking that the Germans were using human skin for making lampshades and pocketbooks,"shrinking" human heads, making soap from the fat of Jewish bodies and countless other grisly fables used to extort $ Billions from the post war Germans?

    I suppose those who rejected these earlier, deliberate Holocaust Industry attempts to slander, extort and deceive were reviled as the very first "Holocaust deniers" too.

    Thanks again for your excellent observations.
     
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    So anyone who disagrees with you is a "denier"? LOL!
     
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    Actually, Holocaust denial is when you're not an idf boot licker or an apologist for war mongers and capitalists.
     
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