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Obama is NOT a Good President. So Why Is He Winning With Independents?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 4, 2012.

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  1. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    I'm a bank courier. I know that not a single bank teller in Bank of America in this county knows who is all running for President. Much less know anything about Obuma care that they didn't hear from a commercial or a left wing news outlet in the few seconds a day they do watch the news. And you know what? They don't care that they don't know either. I've quizzed them.
     
    Slyhunter, Mar 5, 2012
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  2. Rollo1066

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    Mostly because they don't like the alternatives that the GOP is offering.

    Also about 1/2 the country (probably a little less amoung independents) think Obama is a good President.
     
    Rollo1066, Mar 5, 2012
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  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    don't forget Faux news
     
    FreshAir, Mar 5, 2012
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  4. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    Got it. So the fact that some young tellers are clueless and the older ones don't want to engage in detailed political conversations with a guy who drives around, pops in and drops off and picks up canvas bags, is proof that no one in America knows anything.
    Okey dokey.
    So lemme guess: You complain about government handouts while making a living off of our taxpayer money... :disbelief:
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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  5. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Common Since and Intelligence.

    Look it up ...

    • Health Care for All Americans
    • Wall Street Reform
    • Avoiding another Great Depression
    • Saving a million jobs in the American auto industry
    • Expanding Medicaid
    • Eliminating Don't Ask Don't Tell
    • Expanding Children's Health
    • Environmental Reform
    • Expanding Labor Rights
    • Expanding Civil Liberties
    • Equal Pay for Equal Work
    • Killed OBL
    • Ended the Iraq War
    • NO Attacks on his Watch
     
    Cigar, Mar 6, 2012
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  6. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    You meant "Common Sense" right?
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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  7. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Both works :)
     
    Cigar, Mar 6, 2012
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  8. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    You mean "Both work" right?
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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  9. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    It's the best anecdotal evidence I can come up with. If it were you you would use your work place for an example.

    Fox number one ratings only gets 3 million viewers out of 300 million. Most people don't watch the news or the ratings for the various news agencies would be much higher than it is. And my argument is it's because people are more concerned with paying the bills and their day to day meager existences than the world around them.
     
    Slyhunter, Mar 6, 2012
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  10. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    A reasonable argument. Okay I concede your point.
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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  11. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mrs Crump ... its that you?
     
    Cigar, Mar 6, 2012
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  12. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    You mean "is that you?" right?
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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    shaker154 New Member

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    in a choice between bad and worse, people will still vote for the bad choice. Independents must see the republican candidates as worse choices.
     
    shaker154, Mar 6, 2012
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  14. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    That pretty much sums it up.
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 6, 2012
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  15. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Stupid comment that wasted my time.
     
    Albert Di Salvo, Mar 6, 2012
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  16. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Obamacare doesn't truly go into effect until 2014.
     
    Albert Di Salvo, Mar 6, 2012
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    shaker154 New Member

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    Also independents are more likely to vote for a more centered candidate while the republicans keep creeping more and more to the right.
     
    shaker154, Mar 6, 2012
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    rsay32 New Member Past Donor

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    Ah, so Republicans are fortune tellers giving us their vision of the future then when they keep repeating the claim that Obamacare is costing jobs.
     
    rsay32, Mar 6, 2012
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    HillBilly New Member Past Donor

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    maybe , but the Dems had Republican teachers .


    4 More 4 Barry [​IMG][/URL][/IMG].
     
    HillBilly, Mar 6, 2012
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  20. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    No. The effective date of the legislation creating Obamacare goes into effect in 2014. A few provisions are currently effective, but the law won't go into full effect until 2014.
     
    Albert Di Salvo, Mar 6, 2012
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    kowalskil New Member

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    More centered? What does this really mean?
    .
     
    kowalskil, Mar 7, 2012
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  22. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    Well I don't think it means a candidate who meditates or something...:confuse:

    Our country has historically voted in candidates who are percieved by Moderates and Independents, as not being too far to the Left or Right. Bush was percieved a "too Conservative" by Extreme Liberals (HA!) but fairly centrist by those who decide the vote. Obama was (and is) seen as too Liberal (Again HA!) by Extreme Conservatives but again, as fairly Centrist everyone else - which is why he leads in every poll.
     
    NoPartyAffiliation, Mar 7, 2012
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  23. rsay32

    rsay32 New Member Past Donor

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    Nice non-answer. As I said, why then are GOP supporters claiming that Obamacare is costing jobs NOW?
     
    rsay32, Mar 7, 2012
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  24. shaker154

    shaker154 New Member

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    They are pandering for votes. (honestly idk the figures but if its doing well theyd still say that obamacare is bad.) Its an election year so everything the democrats do is bad.. vice versa the other way
     
    shaker154, Mar 7, 2012
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  25. rsay32

    rsay32 New Member Past Donor

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    I know. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
     
    rsay32, Mar 7, 2012
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