illegal gets welfare benefits for the past 20 years.

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd be happy to take a bulldozer to the Progressive's glass house of welfare entitlements.

    At least follow the advice of the the great progressive/communist Lenin. Even he said, "No work, no eat."
     
  2. Alwayssa

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    I work every day kiddo, so please, don't insult my intelligence of that rant of yours. If you think by getting rid of competition is going to make you a better worker, a better father, or a better husband, you have not learned one damn thing.
     
  3. LivingNDixie

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    You have a voice, it is called a vote. You get one, I get one, everyone who is eligible to vote gets one.
     
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    I don't know why this is news......anyone who deals with illegal Hispanics knows that they come here and start popping out babies on the taxpayers dime and immediately sign up for food stamps.........then they file tax returns claiming every niece and nephew back in Mexico so they can get those all-important tax credits i.e. free money instead of paying taxes.......then they use the emergency rooms as their primary care which is paid for by Medicaid. Illegals are a real 'win-win' for the U.S. taxpayer.......LOL at the American people and their 'leaders' who have been letting this go on for a generation.
     
  5. 110db

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    Let's just tell the entire world that they're American citizens. Just drag your carcass across the border! Hey, where's my free money?
     
  6. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If we forced the lazy who can work, but won't---there would be plenty of work for our American welfare rats, and illegals wouldn't be needed.

    Instead of allowing the lazy poor to sit around, at least allow them the dignity of working---some. Instead of just giving out SNAP cards, give them bus tickets to work in the orchards, vegtable or cotton fields. As long as they've put in a full days work, and there are no rocks in the cotton sacks, then give them a SNAP card.

    Doing manual labor is not only good for the country, it will help these lazy poor to grow as human beings.
     
  7. Liquid Reigns

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    Talk about a comprehensive disability....:alcoholic: :roflol:

    That's because you don't know much about illegals or the immigration laws. A PRUCOL (illegal) alien can receive SS and these very benefits in the US.
     
  8. Liquid Reigns

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    SO WHAT. :roll:

    And yet you have stated they can, legally, by creating an LLC. So which is it?

    She is the perfect example of why deportation of illegals needs to be carried out. Neither her financial status nor her children are our responsibility.

    Or there is the probability that she can collect more welfare.

    Why should we foot the bill for her? Why not foot the bill for the world then? :alcoholic:

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    Seems neither do you. Poor attempt at speaking for everybody else.
     
  9. Liquid Reigns

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    Talk about a rant that doesn't pertain to the comment. SMFH
     
  10. Angrytaxpayer

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    LMAO! You obviously have no clue as to how big this problem really is. Take it from someone who knows what's going on first hand. This happens A LOT more than you think. And yes I've seen a few get housing. These people know exactly what they're doing.
     
  11. Alwayssa

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    And what happens if one is working AND receiving welfare? Or how about if they can't work because of a medical condition even though they appear to be in good health?

    The point is that you have a fable image and grossly making generalizationas about a person and group of persons you know nothing about.

    Two can play this game. As far as I am concerned, the only job you are capable of is digging latrines and that is all. Every other job, there are more qualified people.
     
  12. Alwayssa

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    Rule j10. Cite the law that any illegal can receive ss benefits without any conditions whatsoever.


    BTW, I know the answer to this question and know more about immigration law than you. YOur problem is you think you know but in reality you don't.
     
  13. Liquid Reigns

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    Do you not realize that all you just did is repeat with different words exactly what Greataxe stated?

    Based on Greataxe's comment you are quoting, he did no such thing.

    Funny, you attempting to take credit for what somebody else said, you just worded it differently. Maybe you should go burn the barrels from the (*)(*)(*)(*) houses.
     
  14. Alwayssa

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    Again, a few does not equal into millions.

    I have read reports from hospitals to NGO's who state a much different perspective than you do. Somehow, I think you wihite nationalism is getting in the way of your objectivity, so anything you say is suspect, to say the least.
     
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    The claim was "exceptions" for which you only knew of 2, I simply gave a third, PRUCOL aliens. Here's another way an Illegal can get SS benefits, its called a Totalization Agreement provided their home nation has one with the US.


    :alcoholic: :roll:
     
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    It most certainly could. You have given NO evidence that it does not.

    But did you actually comprehend those reports?

    :alcoholic: :roll:
     
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    That is not what Greataxe said. The poster said they want to cut all welfare entitlements and that if they were forced off welfare and worked manual labor, the world would be a better place. That does not mean working AND receiving welfare or receiving welfare and not being able to work.

    So, you want to prove what Greataxe said is exactly what questions I asked? Cite references please that people working AND receiving welfare benefits are ok by Greataxe
    's post.
     
  18. Alwayssa

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    Could does not mean actual. If you have read those reports, and not the interpretation of those reports by anit immigration sites, then you might learn something. But somehow, I don't think you read the actual reports though.
     
  19. Liquid Reigns

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    You mis-comprehend what Greataxe stated.

    Looks to me to say they could work and receive SNAP. :roll:

    See above. :roflol:
     
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    I don't think you actually comprehend those reports, you're having a rough time comprehending others comments on this forum.
     
  21. Alwayssa

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    Legally, yes she can and my argumentsj about illegals can obtain an LLC still is legally valid despite your attempts at using wrong court cases that have no bearing on the issues to dissuade the same. But there is also a difference between legally obtaining an LLC and performing the duties of that LLC.

    So, let's hypothesize. Asusme that illegals can obtiain an LLC and she does for house cleaning work. The first problem she has is the necessary capital to purchase then needed materials to perform housecleaning chores. Second, she needs transportation. She has none. Third, she needs clients. She has none. So, the real question is, by creating an LLC and paying the necessary fees, can she do jobs as an independent contractor doing house cleaning work? So far, the answer is no because she has no capital and no clients. So, what's the point in creating the LlC even though she can legally do so?

    As for footing the bill for her, are we? Or is it the seven children who may be U.S. Citizens?
     
  22. Alwayssa

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    PRUCOL aliens or that specific status does not exist anymore. It was eliminated in 1996. BTW, PRUCOL aliesn are not illegal either since under the law, they were deemed legal staus by statue.

    You basically gave an example that did not fit the definition of illegal in today's current immigration law.

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    And I think you are regurgitating from anti immigration sites on things you know nothing about. You never have read those reports. Otherwise, you would have cited one already.
     
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    They can not legally form an LLC, they can be a "member" of the LLC, but the requirements to obtain an LLC still requires a SS#. The only illegals that can legally create an LLC are those that have work authorization, which are PRUCOL and DACA recepients, and what few others that have been given work authorization.

    There's no need.

    To many assumptions.:yawn:

    It would appear so.

    Still NOT our responsibility.
     
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    It does exist, they simply re-coined it as "qualified alien" . PRUCOL aliens were still illegals and could be deported all they had was an written assurance that enforcement of deportation is not planned.

    DACA recipients fit the description as PRUCOL aliens. Only the PRUCOL doctrine has been changed, they simply changed the defining statutory definition. PRUCOL is still a recognized term the expression "permanently residing under color of law" remains in many Federal, State and City statutes and regulations.

    So now I have to prove your claims? You made the claim as fact, you back it up as per Rule 10. I simply stated I don't think you actually comprehend those reports, you're having a rough time comprehending others comments on this forum.
     
  25. Alwayssa

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    We will have to agree to disagree on LLC. But let me say this. by refusing to answer the hypothetical situation, you have confirmed my suspicions. Congrats.
     

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