White house to crack down on Rec. Marijuana

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    I think Trump should ask the FDA to let this state- by -state legalization movement play out longer, and see if there are consistent negative impacts in states that legalize. If there are, legalization opponents can either use the data to fight broader efforts in other states and proponents can learn how to tailor their bills to meet the new challenges of legalization. this is an interesting public policy experiment and a reasonable test for libertarian arguments with respect to other drug bans. I voted to legalize in Oregon, and so far I have seen no reason to regret it.

    The Feds have better things to do with their resources anyway, and bigger fish to fry so moving pot enforcement to a lower priority is smart.
     
  2. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The article in the OP is false.

    Spicer never said a thing about "Stepping up" anything regarding recreational marijuana use.

    He DID say that the Administration had compassion for medicinal use, but wasn't "Pro-Recreational" use.

    My money says, & I actually have some riding on the entirety of the issue, that not a thing will be done regarding either side of it.

    Especially considering the tax revenue, & the nonexistent explosion of underage use of cannabis, & the very real evidence of crime rates dropping in the areas where recreational & medicinal marijuana are no longer criminal.
     
  3. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, by your statement, I'm guessing you'd prefer criminalizing tobacco & alcohol then?

    Great, How well did the Alcohol part work out previously?
     
  4. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!

    Subjective!

    "One Drink"... Ok, maybe you're drink isn't as strong as another's choice.

    You know, there's bud out there you gotta hit the hell outta to get high too right?

    Just like there's EverClear, there's also 80 proof.... And for Teh Ladies, 40 & 60 proof Liquours as well...
     
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    I think it's the wrong to not legalize, or at least amend fed laws. Rec marijuana can help raise taxes and stop various amounts of tax payment on police/jail issues, plus also stop funding drug dealers and potentially prevent people trying other drugs "because the dealer also tries to sell them when selling mary".

    I like alcohol, but I'm not an alcoholic and don't turn up to work drunk. I see no reason why the same can't be said about MJ.
     
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    Well, that and the whole adult free choice thing. This is just one of the reasons I'm not a conservative. Quit trying to control adults through victimless crimes.
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    So, you want to take away the right to be stupid?
     
  8. freakonature

    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    Not with current technology.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Now, you sound like a liberal on bathrooms. Let's not legislate based upon a minute minority of society.
     
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    Either way you are screwed. Enforce Federal Law and you are screwed. Dont enforce Federal Law and well you are not enforcing Federal Law. This is up to Congress. The D's should be focusing on this instead of the Impeach nonsense perhaps at this time they could get enough R's to actually do something about the issue.
     
  10. Genius

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    I know a LOT of pot smokers...many have been smokers for 30-40 years. They all have one thing in common...they are paranoid, angry and forgetful.

    Now, if you're talking medical, it's a totally different ballgame.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    That's the whole point. Weed is supposed to get you 'impaired'! Otherwise where's the fun?
     
  12. Sam Bellamy

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    I don't use drugs. Thanks for the insult.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Really? I'm 64, been smoking weed since my teens, and still smoke daily. I just retired from an extremely responsible career in cytopathology and I don't feel paranoid, angry or any more forgetful that anyone else, frankly.
     
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    My friends don't think they do either.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    I'm not your friends, and your subjective anecdote isn't really evidence of much at all.
     
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    We finally get for profit prisons closed and he does this. Probably so he can fill up those for profit prisons.
     
  17. BillRM

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    I was way way ahead on this issue as in 1971 when being interview/question to be on a jury in a Marijuana case I told the federal judge that I could not serve as I did not believe in the then marijuana laws nor would I convict anyone under them.

    Some laws are so very dumb and harmful that citizens should consider using the power of jury nullification.
     
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    I know many Tea Party members at my workplace..................They are paranoid, angry, & forgetful.

    The stoners are cool.......they come to work ever day, giggle a lot, and are always ordering pizza for lunch.
     
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    Vitamin B12 is very bad news, especially for people allergic to it.

    What's you're point?
     
  20. BillRM

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    Lot of long terms studies of decades long heavy pot smokers that show zero meaningful harm.

     
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    Sickening isn't it?

    How many millions have the democrats and republicans taken from the Pharma industry? This is why pot will be illegal until we the people demand that we be able to self medicate.

    Alcohol is far worse, and yet it is legal. I wonder why.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sickening batch of demagogues, liars, shills and charlatans.
     
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    Unbelievable hypocrisy out of this white house. States rights for everything but pot, then Sessions will send in the political Gestapo to arrest everyone else.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiocy.

    I am -so so so- sick of being told I cannot self medicate unless it is something that is venomously addictive, or concocted in a laboratory instead of my own back yard.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) off. And (*)(*)(*)(*) that. And (*)(*)(*)(*) this white house.

    I was on board with Sessions' appointment because of his immigration stance, but this is absurd. It's 2017. We shouldn't be fighting for the right to self medicate and the right to consume what we desire anymore.

    Unreal.
     
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    Of course, have to fill the private prisons to make the owners more money.

    Seriously, screw this administration. Screw anybody that still supports this guy. If it is not obvious by now that Trump, and Republicans, are all about making it easier for the rich to get richer at the expense of everybody else, there is no hope for those people
     
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    I find it hilarious that these idiot conservatives still cling to this BS about marijuana. It's absurd. They all need to smoke a fat doob and relax.

    I don't even smoke the (*)(*)(*)(*). It puts me right to sleep.

    But I'd like to be able to grow it for medicinal and culinary purposes.

    I am sick and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing tired of this government telling me it's ok to take drugs to treat a muscle ache that can cause cancer, but it's not ok to grow my own natural remedy in my own back yard on my own property.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) them and (*)(*)(*)(*) that and (*)(*)(*)(*) everyone who agrees with this move by Donald Dump's clown car administration.

    More (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bodies for the corporate prison system.
     
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    I don't think showing a picture of their ass would be allowed here. The claims are nonsense, and even so, who cares. Alcohol, highly addicting, that can kill you, kill others, leads to violence, domestic violence, all sorts of health issues is perfectly legal, but marijuana which is far more safer, mellows people out instead of makes them violent and frankly disgusting if they do too much. Plus, there are so many medical benefits.

    The ironic thing is how many of those against it drink, or so other stuff. And the worst, you know Trump has done drugs before. probably lots of coke in his life.

    This is all about one thing, placating the pharma industry, and making money for the prison system. It's a big money system, even when its not private. All those companies have to supply the prisons. Now with private prisons, its even worse. They only care about the bottom line. Like the case where a judge was bribed by one of the private prisons to give harsher sentences. And how these prisons must keep an occupancy rate, and give out punishments to prisoners more often to give them longer sentences. Just like all privatization, its just a raping of this country and the people's rights.

    It's a joke that we have the highest imprisonment rate in the industrialized world. What an embarrassment for the land of the free. What's even worse is when these people get out, they are treated like (*)(*)(*)(*), can't get jobs. So for having marijuana, you want to ruin these people's lives. Sadly, it largely targets minorities, they are the ones that get arrested more, and get longer sentences.

    Such a disgrace, as is anybody that still supports this administration after all they have done, in just a month. Wow, they can't make it any more obvious. THe rape of this country is beginning. They have their zippers open now
     

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