Right wing disinformation mill in full swing

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep creating flame bait.

    You Democrats since 1933 have had vast chances to kill off the NRA. So why have you never killed them off? FDR alone had 4 terms to eliminate the NRA. FDR did like them. Johnson would have looked stupid killing them off given his penchant for major wars.
     
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    If there was a mass shooting, I'd hope the shooter was using one of those, because they malfunction so often.

    It might be why they were able to drop him so fast.
     
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    The FL school shooter had 10 round mags apparently.

    All you do is carry more mags.

    When you're the only one with a gun, mag size is irrelevant.
     
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    How about a standard 10 round magazine?
    41 shots in about 30 seconds. I think I see another problem.
    Of course it's constitutional. It's done in many states, but without it being nationwide it's a losing battle.
     
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    Nothing in the Constitution that says you can't limit the size of the magazine. Can't help? Maybe not but it did help with the Arizona Congresswoman who got shot along with quite a few others. The shooter had a normal magazine and when he went to eject the old one and put in a new one, he dropped it in all the excitement. That gave a man a chance to tackle him before he could grab it off the ground and load it.
     
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    There were cops with guns on the corner.
    41 shots in 30 seconds. 36 hits.
    3 magazine changes 5 seconds.
    = Six people uninjured.
     
  7. MelKor

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    Nothing says Citizens have Rights to High Powered Weapons of War ..........Either
     
  8. MelKor

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    Guilty....Smart ass comment....Robert the NRA was not nearly the highly charged political organization it is now...Huge difference
     
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    They are no more high powered than an average hunting rifle. Yes, our forefathers wanted us to have weapons not only to protect our family and put food on the table. But to also be able to protect us from a government who decides to turn America into something it wasn't intended to be. It was as much to protect us against the government as it was to protect us from the bad guy.
     
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    The right lying about shootings, and misinforming the public isn't something knew.

    Following the Vegas shooting, the far right began a campaign to frame an innocent man for the shooting, creating false news stories all over the internet and far right "news" media claiming that the police has named him their prime suspect. The issue was that it wasn't true at all. The reason they tried to frame him was because he was a local progressive activist from Vegas.

    The shooter turned out to be a far right Trumpist nutjob. What do you know.
     
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    So the Founding Fathers wanted the citizens to be able to overthrow.......The Founding Fathers?...The crackdown on the Whiskey Rebellion proves that false...More Crazy paranoia from gun advocates twisting the Second Amendment
     
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    Which still doesn't tell us if his gun jammed or not.
     
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    Or black women

    Lebanese Christians

    Black men

    Even hispanics
     
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    10 rounds are not standard in most rifles. Haven't been for more than 50 years. 20s were standard on the M14, 30s are standard on all AK and AR variants.

    1) you have an easier constitutional argument from the state level but 2) it doesn't satisfy constitutional principles after incorporation for either state or federal.
     
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    Have you never read the Constitution or the writings of the Founders themselves?

    They're all about it.
     
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    Hardly......They stomped the Whiskey Rebellion dead in it's tracks.....The crazed Gun Nuts have totally distorted the second amendment...Much as Jihadists in the Middle East have distorted he Koran
     
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    See 2a. Infringment on the right to keep and bear arms is verboten.

    Which demonstrates his ineptitude (and considering the guy, that's unsurprising) not that a competent shooter (ie one who has practiced sufficiently) is going to have a problem. The beefier the mag, the more likely it is to jam.
     
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    You assume the Whiskey Rebellion was of the sort which they would've approved of. Seeing as how those farmers were represented, and the constitution wasn't being violated, I fail to see how the WR could've been one they approved of.
     
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    They were referring to Local Militia's needed at the time...They also wanted these WELL REGULATED.....Something the gun advocates overlook.........Everytime
     
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    Rolling stone. I'm glad I'm not in a frat at UVA.
     
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    Point is the Founding Fathers DID NOT want an amendment that be interpreted to overthrow a duly elected government...........
     
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    Let's see, you don't know what an 'assault rifle' is or what 'well regulated' meant at the time. Figures.
     
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    Info Wars...Glad I;m not a parent from Newtown
     
  24. MelKor

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    I'm sure as hell aren't not going by your definition...What is he Bullshit term?..........Sporting Rifle
     
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    “What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
     

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