Another Putin assassination

There's a big difference between Boris Nemtzov and that Chechen rebel, do you agree?

 

The Chechen guy is problematic. I have read NOTHING about him, other than he was
an enemy of Putin and he got it in the neck. Same as Nemtzov (four in the back, actually)
And there's the Russian journalist who was killed after reporting on the deaths of Russian
"volunteers" in Syria. They are all Different, yet they are all the Same.

 

Yep,
But, Nemtzov was not a jihadist.

 

I don't want to read it - but I can guess.
However, if it was Nemtzov in Germany I reckon he would still
have been killed.
I find something evil in the Russian psyche. They love to point
out how many countries have invaded them - without counting
their own invasions, or even, role in starting WWII.
I know a 97 year old guy who was a merchant seaman, taking
supplies to Murmansk. He said he was more afraid of Soviets
HE WAS HELPING than of the German U-boats.

 

Would Australia be happy with foreigners coming in and committing assassinations?

Even Thatcher did not allow such things. What a lawless world we have become.

 

While I don't deny the West acts in the way it does, both should be the subject to recrimination - unless we have accepted that we are going to live under totalitarian regimes.

 

The US does not drone people in Germany yet to the best of my knowledge.

 

I put nothing past putin, hes a dictator for all intents and hes a murderous snake that wants russia to be the old USSR

 

I am just learning of the man. Fascinating!

 

Murder always has a victim.

 

How about on planet Earth.

To "drone people" is to "drone people"

 

If you really want to know Vladimir Putin, then how about an American who actually lived and worked in Russia for 30 years and who met him before he became president. According to Sharon Tennyson, Vladimir Putin was known as incorruptible even at a time when corruption was commonplace in Russia.

Putin was demonized by Washington for clamping down on the tax evaders who were sending billions to foreign banks, while the Russians went hungry. Seems like the Russian tax evaders have friends in high places in this country.

Here are a few excerpts from her article:

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"...My friend Volodya Shestakov and I showed up at a side door entrance to the Marienskii building. We found ourselves in a small, dull brown office, facing a rather trim nondescript man in a brown suit.

He inquired about my reason for coming in. After scanning the proposal I provided he began asking intelligent questions. After each of my answers, he asked the next relevant question.

I became aware that this interviewer was different from other Soviet bureaucrats who always seemed to fall into chummy conversations with foreigners with hopes of obtaining bribes in exchange for the Americans’ requests. CCI stood on the principle that we would never, never give bribes.

This bureaucrat was open, inquiring, and impersonal in demeanor. After more than an hour of careful questions and answers, he quietly explained that he had tried hard to determine if the proposal was legal, then said that unfortunately at the time it was not. A few good words about the proposal were uttered. That was all. He simply and kindly showed us to the door.

Out on the sidewalk, I said to my colleague, “Volodya, this is the first time we have ever dealt with a Soviet bureaucrat who didn’t ask us for a trip to the US or something valuable!”

I remember looking at his business card in the sunlight––it read Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin..."
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"...I arrived in St.Petersburg. A Russian friend (a psychologist) since 1983 came for our usual visit. My first question was, “Lena what do you think about your new president?” She laughed and retorted, “Volodya! I went to school with him!”

She began to describe Putin as a quiet youngster, poor, fond of martial arts, who stood up for kids being bullied on the playgrounds. She remembered him as a patriotic youth who applied for the KGB prematurely after graduating secondary school (they sent him away and told him to get an education).

He went to law school, later reapplied and was accepted. I must have grimaced at this, because Lena said:

Sharon in those days we all admired the KGB and believed that those who worked there were patriots and were keeping the country safe. We thought it was natural for Volodya to choose this career..."
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"...So what do you think of your new president?

None responded negatively (about Vladimir Putin), even though at that time entrepreneurs hated Russia’s bureaucrats. Most answered similarly, “Putin registered my business a few years ago”.

Next question:

So, how much did it cost you?

To a person they replied, “Putin didn’t charge anything”.

One said: "We went to Putin’s desk because the others providing registrations at the Marienskii were getting ‘rich on their seats..."

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"...Four months later Putin called a meeting with the oligarchs and gave them his deal:


They could keep their illegally-gained wealth-producing Soviet enterprises and they would not be nationalized …. If taxes were paid on their revenues and if they personally stayed out of politics.

This was the first of Putin’s “elegant solutions” to the near impossible challenges facing the new Russia. But the deal also put Putin in crosshairs with US media and officials who then began to champion the oligarchs, particularly Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

The latter became highly political, didn’t pay taxes, and prior to being apprehended and jailed was in the process of selling a major portion of Russia’s largest private oil company, Yukos Oil, to Exxon Mobil. Unfortunately, to U.S. media and governing structures, Khodorkovsky became a martyr (and remains so up to today)..."

https://alethonews.com/2018/01/28/is-putin-profoundly-corrupt-or-incorruptible/

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/02/02/honest-assessment-putin/

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/06/understanding-russia-un-demonizing-putin/
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How strange that the President of Total Oil would die in a freak accident at the Moscow airport, right after he told Putin he wouldn't comply with the American sanctions or trade in Petrodollars.

Nah! We wouldn't go around killing people in other countries for something like that now would we? Oops I forgot! Wasn't Ghadaffi also going off the petrodollar? To be honest I don't think the CIA is up to those things, but the MI6 certainly is. It's their specialty - that and making up false dossiers about American Presidents.

 

Of course droning people is droning people. However to imagine you can go into another country, indeed another Western country and kill people there and be shocked that the leader of that country is not laughing is just to forget all law...to forget all morality.

Your mind is simply accepting of total kill anywhere anytime and No Law. No one should be upset about people killing people in their country because they kill in other countries. God what kind of a world are you people creating for my grandchilden.

 

Ah, so that's it. Millions of Americans and Europeans looked with concern as Russia resorted
to form after Yeltsin - they were concerned the outflow of money would dry up. That explains
it.

 

What was it? His light plane hit a snow plough on the runway? Reminds me
of Lady Diane conspiracies.
I heard all these arguments with the second gulf war - it's all about the oil.
(The same oil that wasn't supposed to be here after the various "peak oil"
theories died a quiet death.)
As it was, China and France got the Iraq oil contracts after the war. And
now America hardly buys oil from anyone as it has become a net exporter.

 

Au Contraire


@alexa
You quantify the value of a human life depending on location.
The worth of an innocent child in Syria or Iraq is apparently worth
less to you than the life of a Chechen Islamist in Germany.


Go figure. I can't.
YOU will probably get the last word between us here. No promises.
You might just upload something insightful.


Moi

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you think you live in a lawful world

 

He is not Chechen, he was from Georgia.

 

Grimms Maerchen hour.

 

Are you saying it was okay for Russian oligarchs to ship billions to off shore accounts and have the Russian people suffer? Well Vladimir Putin didn't think so, and he's president.

 

Ooops
We're Doing It Again.

https://news.yahoo.com/us-army-preparing-biggest-european-deployment-years-195217993.html

US Army preparing biggest European deployment in years​

Washington (AFP) - The US Army is planning its biggest deployment of troops to Europe in 25 years, with 20,000 troops slated to take part in a massive force projection exercise at a time of increasingly adversarial relations with Russia. . . .



Bear Baiting anyone?
Coming soon, Russia & Some Latin American nation military exercise.



Moi

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Thought POTUS wasn’t interested in foreign entanglements?

 

Hey
I thought he was gonna get us out of Afghanistan.

This is RepubloCratic behavior.
Same with Bush, Jr., Obama and would have remained if previous
Secretary of State Hillary became President.

Wonder what forces came down on Trump to persist in Afghanistan.

Just because I'm a conspiracist - - Doesn't mean it isn't.



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That's super true. It's the conclusion you chose that's the bother.
The oligarchs were not Western agents, they were high up members of the
Communist party. They did enormous damage not only to Russia but to the
West as there could be a potential new Cold War.