US Indicts Venezuelan Leader Nicolas Maduro, Offers $15 Million Reward For His Capture

So universal healthcare and universal education wouldn't be "socialist" as long as the government didn't own the means of production?

It's socializing and redistributing wealth. I thought "conservatives" were against that. I thought "conservatives" believed in "rugged individualism" and "personal responsibility". I also thought "conservatives" were in favor of reducing spending and debt. But Trump has done the exact opposite of that. He's done nothing but spend more and borrow more and grow the government. And you fake "conservatives" love it.

You should probably take your own advice.

 

The "war on drugs" can be compared to Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984, i.e., a contrived enemy to distract the people. It really is a war against Civil Liberties in the US.

 

Exactement !

Why the @#!* is NOBODY Talking About This & Standing Against it!??



.

.

 

The misery that - Venezuelans - are presently experiencing has very little to do with Socialism
It has to do with The Abusive Unrelenting Sanctions that YOUR Government is inflicting on them
... That same Government to whom Starvation & Disease are Price Worth Paying so long as it is someone else paying the Bill


Of course YOU know this, and all YOUR Horhit to the contrary, only serves to Smear YOU
with the disease of the Willfully Ignorant LIE, every bit as RIPE as that which infects YOUR Avatar
................................................

.

 

Um... you realize schools are in fact owned and run by the government. From elementary to university. Yes, that is socialism.

A Medicare for all would be government, negotiating with governemnt and private owned hospitals on the delivery of care, so socialism light.

Nice try though.

We do, but understand that exceptions should be made. We're don't think that mentally handicap people should die in the street of starvation, that social safety nets shouldn't exist, or actions shouldn't be taken to prevent economic collapse.

What I would be opposed to is governemnt continuing to fund these stimulus after the threat is gone and the economy persevered. I realize that people may become too dependent on government if supported by them.

You just want to talk in extremes, not actually discuss the perspectives of people that disagree with you. Have fun with that.

 

Those with blood lust who hate fair and honest justice, are ignoring that the whole story is "alleged" and "charged". There has been no trial, and no evidence presented. It's a **** show for gullible haters. As such, it's a distraction that will probably end with the USA assassinating a lawfully elected foreign leader. It can make one wonder why Dear Leader has sucked up to the likes of Kim Jong Un and Putin but wants to kill or jail Maduro.

 

As far as that goes, the US Postal Service is socialism, and it is demanded by the US Constitution.

Local fire departments are socialism, and we couldn't get along without them.

 

That's ridiculous... the economy have been sinking since Chavez

 

So was Reagan and Daddy Bush.

Laughable hypocrisy and generalized nonsense this is.

 

You are the one who is hating on America. Your accusation of others is projection.

 

The country has suffered under US sanctions since Chavez was in office.

 

The country started socialism under Chavez, corruption deserves sanctions

 

We have an obligation to sanction other countries where corruption is practiced?

Goodness, who gets to sanction us?

 

So do I have this Right ? regarding YOUR Rational as to deserved Sanctions
........... knowing that Sanctions Target the Citizens of the country they are aimed at,
........... and any Collateral damage is of course "a Price that we Feel is Worth It"

Maduro & Socialism are to blame for Starving the people of Venezuela.
So OUR Capitalist inspired policy will be to enact - Brutal Sanctions that
............ will Starve the people of Venezuela and thus make Maduro to stop
............ ........................................................................... Starving the people of Venezuela !

Neat ! - Brilliant Logic ! - Now I Know the American mind ! - Wonderful !
............................................................ Why it's like - It's LIKE an Epiphany ! thank you

.

 

Trump, (or is it Pompeo), wants to kill Maduro to satisfy Rubio of the Miami crime family, and the men of 'distinction' in Miami who support him.

I figure the best way to know who is an honest president, would be through their relationship with Washington. If Washington loves them, then they are bought. If Washington hates them, then they are not bought.

 

It is hypocrisy, because our State Department knows that 90% of the cocaine coming into this country, comes from Columbia. But that's okay, we need the money to fight Venezuela.

Better to spin it and accuse Maduro since they curbed the drug trade, and took that money away from us. I mean how dare he?

Let's play the game of right is wrong,
and sing along with wicked song
of criminality and sin
and thinking that we'll always win.

Although the past has always shown
that nations cannot go alone
and that they'll come a day and soon
when all we have will lay in ruin - Jeannette
​

 

What is laughable about the FARC accusation of "narco trafficking" is that the CIA/ USA was deep deep in the weeds with the drug traffickers when they were supporting those fighting against FARC and the Contra's - and this is so well known that you can watch documentaries on the History Channel on the topic. Iran Contra is connected to this as well.

 

How in the damn world can our government say they are at war with the drug cartels, and then say they're working with Columbia when Columbia's whole economy is supported by drugs? What they really mean is that the drug cartels will be paying for our war with Venezuela so it won't cost us anything.

This reminds me of the attempt at assassinating Vladimir Putin by shooting down his plane as it was coming back from Brazil. Instead they shot down the airliner, so they spun it into the Russian supported militia shot down the airliner. Of course the American people who bought it were being played for fools. Well they're being played for fools again - we're entering another illegal war.

So while China and Russia are being humane and helping the people of Venezuela fight the corona virus, we will use the opportunity to overthrow Venezuela's legal president and put in our paid stooge.

Years ago when Obama was running for president, an Orthodox Saint said that Washington was under Satan. Well that explains our government actions, and why we're being fed one lie after another.

THE FATHER OF LIES ​

​

I'm the father of lies that's what I be,
who laughs at people's misery.
To watch them as they lie and steal.
The fools, they think they're being real..

But fools they were and fools they'll be
for they have eyes but cannot see,
and think that playing evil games
will bring them power, wealth and fame.

But what they want will not be so.
Instead of heights they've fallen low.
And covered up with filth and muck.
Tough luck I know, but they deserve it - Jeannette​

 

What now! Are you still on about Maduro the drug dealer and his high moral ground... you realise that's an oxymoron.

 

pfft I know all about sanctions... it has been used by all sides... it just works better for some

 

I know it was jail for any American buying oil from Venezuela under Chavez, I guess because he nationalized everything. From what I know, only 1 out of 5 refineries was working. The rest of the oil had to be shipped to Russia to be refined.

 

Maduro has nothing to do with drugs. It's just another Washington lie. All the drugs come from Columbia - and they're the ones we're working with to attack Venezuela.

 

Our Cocaine Importing Agency has been in the drug business pretty much since its inception.

After the Gary Webb expose in the San Jose Mercury back in the 80's, numerous investigations were conducted, both within the Agency and in Congress. When those investigations were complete reports were issued.

The CIA report basically acknowledged that Webb's story had been correct and accurate.

That report was issued to the media on a Friday afternoon, the same day that the story of Monica Lewinsky hit the news.

 

You know all about sanctions but you don't give a damn about who gets hurt by them? Is that what you mean?

 

Is he still the president of Venezuela? If so, he shouldn't be hard to find but of course will be hard to "whack".

Another "commando" style assassination, in the mode of Bin Laden, is, I'm sure, an option the CIA and FBI can ponder.

Put Mueller, Comey, Strock, Page, Orr and McCabe on it. Corruption should be able to weed out other corruption.