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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?
     
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    North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme

    (Reuters) - The North Carolina Republican political operative at the center of an absentee ballot fraud scheme that led the state to order a rerun of a congressional election was arrested and charged with obstruction of justice on Wednesday, officials said.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...harged-in-election-fraud-scheme-idUSKCN1QG2FS
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the reason why Republicans complain so much about election fraud, is to deflect from the fact that most election fraud is committed by Republicans.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you have no actual proof of that. Right?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    just as you guys have no proof voter fraud is a major problem
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have not made any such claims. What I have claimed is that it is possible to overturn an election with voter fraud. I proved that is possible.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    therefore we should all work very hard to make sure voting by mail is as secure as possible
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you start out with vote by mail, you have already started with a disadvantage because it is more vulnerable to fraud.
     
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    You of course proved no such thing in regards to presidential elections
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you believe that it is possible an election can be decided by only one vote?
     
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    A modern day presidential election? No.
     
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    Of course it can but it is extremely unlikely
     
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    So you believe it is absolutely impossible that a state which will decide the election could not come down to a single vote? Not that is likely, but is it possible at all?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that to ECA. He does not think it is possible.

    Second question. Do you believe that it is for someone to cast one fraudulent vote?
     
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    Until the electoral system in the united states is actually secured to ensure only living citizens are able to vote, and only once per person, there is no legitimate reason to attempt implementing vote by mail systems. Let individuals prove their citizenship and obtain their absentee ballots if they believe the popular vote is truly so important, which it is not.

    Since the election will be decided by the electoral vote, the people being able to cast their ballots means absolutely nothing, and will make no difference.
     
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    There is no way to 100% stop all voter fraud

    and the vast majority of voters who are registered and legal should not have to suffer in order to try to stop it
     
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    No
     
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    Yet the same logic does not apply with regard to firearms ownership. The majority of legal firearm owners do not commit crime or put others at the risk of harm, yet they have to suffer because of those who do engage in such activities.
     
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    Then it is possible, however, remotely, for a presidential election to be overturned by fraud.

    However, that possibility is not limited by a single vote. All it takes is more fraudulent votes in the right direction to exceed the legitimate margin of the election.

    Still, the odds are highly against it, but the question was whether it was possible. And it is possible.
     
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    It's also possible that a monkey may fly out of my ass. Though highly unlikely.
     
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    Opinion, not fact
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ronstar appears to disagree with you.
     
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    And?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That makes it two to one that I am right.

    Out of curiosity, you claimed that an election could not be decided by a single vote. Could it be decided by a thousand and five votes, ten thousand and six votes or a million and three votes? All of those are equally possible to being decided by a single vote.
     
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    So because someone shares your OPINION that makes it right? Now THAT is funny stuff.

    Huh? Of course presidential voting in each state can be decided by thousands of votes. Hence why I stated no modern day presidential election has ever been decided by one vote. I based my comment on actual voting results.
     

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