A fake plane was added for south tower explosion

Have the Martians arrived on Earth yet?

I'm still waiting with bated breath, but I hope it wont be my last gasp!

 

Well, I don't know. What's the "official" stance on that? (and don't bate your breath..it known to have caused brain damage).

 

First, they didn't (I believe some of the cameras on the tube weren't working but stuff not working on the London Underground isn't news. There was CCTV images of the bombers entering stations and waiting on platforms though).

Secondly, what the heck does that have to do with a question about the question I asked?! Do you have any thoughts about the rationality of the theory that 9/11 was a fake attack with real no aircraft involved?

 

You won't post anything more than nonsense and ignoring the pink elephant in the room. If there was this big jet that really impacted T2 then how could two live footage clips show no plane of any kind but an orb slowly hiding behind the towers and exploding T2?

 

It's called human incompetence. In no way could something this huge be successful beyond fooling the masses with the complete participation of the media.

Two unaltered clips were discovered long ago but the denialists simply ignore them and point to fake black planes that were faked based on two clips that prove no plane impacted T2.

 

Do you have any thoughts about the rationality of there being no plane of any of known kind in two live footage clips and still believing the official 911 myth? 9/11 was a fake attack with no known aircraft involved in impacting T2.

 

Maybe the footage apparently showing no planes has been faked? I don't know.

I'm not proposing a specific explanation, you are. I asked a perfectly reasonable question about your proposed explanation and I still don't think there has been a convincing answer to it.

 

But the two woman support their being no plane. One by keeping her mouth shut about the orb and she says there's been another explosion in T2, the other by slipping up, describing what might be a police helicopter 2 seconds before it explodes. We all know that anyone would know if it was helicopter because it has a propeller.

She described in her own way a ufo flying into the towers from the west. The world is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed and I am 100 percent sure of that after jfk and now 911. There is no way they would not have described it as it was happening because that would be shocking for anyone to see a jumbo jet flying into a building. 911 was a hoax to continue the NWO. This event was of an epic proportion.

 

Maybe the footage apparently showing no planes has been faked? I don't know.

I'm not proposing a specific explanation, you are. I asked a perfectly reasonable question about your proposed explanation and I still don't think there has been a convincing answer to it.

 

The plane was moving at 500+ mph. Perhaps the photog missed it. And he said he didn't see it. That's not the same as him saying there was no plane.

And by the way, my explanation is WAY more reasonable than a UFO doing it.

But then again, if you believe that 2 sources are correct in claiming there was no plane and the 100s of news sources, and amateur video sources and eye witness accounts that saw planes were faked, there's not much point in discussing it.

If there were no planes what happened to all the passengers that were supposed to be on those flights?

 

These "no plane" theories are really idiotic.

So tens of thousands of people in NYC are liars? Or are they all in on the conspiracy?

 

I agree with you, BLD.

 

I suspect I know why you're seeing pink elephants in the room.

 

Your government theories are really idiotic.

So, two live footage clips showing no plane can be debunked how exactly? Both women do not describe a plane because there was no plane that impacted T2. There were NOT tens of thousands of people who saw a plane on the ground. THAT IT IS A LIE.

 

I know you're ignoring the many pink elephants in the room because you can't explain them away. YOU HAVE VIDEO FAKERY and the truth has live footage showing no known aircraft.

 

There were indeed tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of people who saw the second plane impact live at the scene.

There is more than one video of the second plane impacting the tower than the low resolution one highlighted in this thread.

 

It took this long to make this gif because gifsoup is a pos. It is clear why she didn't identify it as definitely being a helicopter because it has no propellor, therefore was not a helicopter, plane, or missile of any known kind. The only people who would know are ones with top secret clearance. Notice how slow it moves and the lapse of time between when it's hidden and the explosion. It circles the building as Matt Lauer described, leading to the likely conclusion that it really exploded on the east, not southeast side. The shape, size, and slow movement aren't anything like the digi-plane.




[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUGTrZbAn-o&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=22]9/11 South Tower Strike WB11 Live (WPIX) - YouTube[/ame]

 

Wait, there were only 2 clips of the plane impact? Do tell...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk[/ame]

 

The east view proves a fake plane was added into the west view

The plane does not pass through the open skyline before it comes into view which proves a fake plane was added.


The east view shows the fake plane traveling straight north for 9 seconds, which debunks the official divebomb myth and is clearly seen passing through the skyline, unlike the clip that was released three years ago. The last building it passes may be the same that it magically appears from behind in the west view.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsWRDHE42gs&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=15"]Rare - 'Japanese tourist' captures WTC missile strike - 9seconds - YouTube[/ame]


Advance this clip to 4:00 or before and see the plane created out of thin air from behind the building just right of the open and unobstructed skyline. I started this gif two seconds before it appears from behind the building. A real plane would be seen passing through the clear sky just like it does from the east view. This is human error. It is not possible to cover up something of this magnitude unless everyone got together beforehand, which obviously did not happen.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddGXuy0ep7g"]Unseen 911 Footage Finally Released By FBI, DOJ - YouTube[/ame]

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 The FBI and the Department of Justice have released ten new videos relating to the events of 9/11, three years after a freedom of information act request for the footage was submitted.

 

What. A. Load. Of. Nonsensical. Conjecture. That. Has. No. Basis. In. Reality.

The No Plane theory is, without a doubt, the most moronic of all the theories spit out by Truthers.

/fact

 

these guys think the same plane can come in at different directions and different angles of descent, wings that disappear, can fly through buildings and all the other cgi errors and the scary part is they believe its twu.

early videos from the same directions all show no plane lol

 

This OP is not only disrespectful to the dead, injured, and family/friends of the victims, but offensive to me.
I'm still, to this day,traumatized from seeing this happen on live TV.

I find these truther threads disgusting and vile. Offensive is an understatement.
Those who promulgate them are writing lies and crap.
Additionally these threads demonstrate the sheer ignorance, wacko stupidity, and gullibility that is possible in human beings.

 

No they don't lol

Dumbest Theory Ever and you own it koko.

Hurray for you.

I think arguing with a Flat Earther would garner a more substantive debate that this steaming pile of crap.

 

Red herring fallacy. I never espoused any "government" theory.

There are a multitude of ways.

1. The resolution isn't high enough to clearly show it.
2. You or some other 9/11 Denier faked/edited it.
3. They are blurred or did not capture the right moment
4. They do show a plane, and you're interpreting it wrong.

This is really about weighing your two supposedly live clips versus tens of thousands of other pieces of evidence.

You did not, in any way, attempt to refute what I said. Instead, you refocused the argument on one tiny piece of evidence you think supports your position. This is a hallmark of a dead argument.

They did not know what they were seeing at the time. Why don't you follow up with them now and ask them what they saw?

LOL... See, this is where the no-plane people really expose themselves as just living in some flyover state in the middle of nowhere and never having been to NYC or having any clue about the city.

On 9/11, there were literally millions of people who were in a position to see the second plane hit. Tens of thousands of them were staring at the WTC due to the fires from the first plane. To say they didn't see a plane is just absurd.

Why hasn't one person who is from NYC come forward to say they were watching the towers and saw an explosion happen without a plane striking the WTC? Just one?

 

The timing of the divebomber myth and chopper 4 orb are off by three seconds.

They are traveling in different directions with the orb being well west of the divebomber. Several local and big TV lizard reporters described the orb as a commercial plane. Shout outs go to the BBC and spooked helicopter lady.



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5gJUhYnjo]2nd hit CBS Divebomber on BBC - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_caQ9ZsGycY&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=19]9/11 footage Chopper 4 HQ - YouTube[/ame]