A Third Party Presidential Bid in 2024?

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Joe Lieberman will not leave his fellow Democrats alone
With No Labels, the Democratic maverick is still trying to foil liberals and challenge the party — even if it means threatening to throw a wrench into 2024.
By Kara Voght

 

The title of your linked article, speaks to the inferior quality of the material that would be found, by anyone linking to it: i.e., Lieberman left the Democratic Party a long, long time ago. I should know: he won the Senatorial race in my state, as an Independent (after losing the Democratic Primary, IIRC). IMO, he is a corporate sellout. A stooge. And No Labels, besides being underwritten by the corporate oligarch class (including the ever-higher profile Harland Crow), has a distinctly Republican bent to it (albeit without the subservience to Trump-- though, of course, it might be too soon to appraise how unaffected they would be by Trump, since they do not have any national candidates, yet).

 

If the two major parties insist on nominating candidates unfit to serve as President then No Labels becomes a sensible alternative.

 

This is nothing but an inapplicable hypothetical. The way that Biden has led the nation so far, overall, has shown that he is undoubtedly more fit than most, to serve as President. IOW, your not agreeing with, or liking the incumbent, does not fulfill your stipulated condition, at least as far as the Democratic Party, of nominating someone who is unfit to serve.

I think most of the other candidates, of whom I've heard-- from Trump, to RFK Jr., to Jill Stein, and with what I've now learned, definitely including Joe Manchin (whom I used to like)-- are of far more questionable fitness, to hold the office of U.S. President.

 

Meh… if Joe is the best you can think of, your expectations are so low as to be without meaning. It’s like saying Burger King is better than McDonald’s, and therefore, the best. That’s faulty logic.

The ONLY reason Biden was hired is because his last name wasn’t Trump. He’s a disaster, otherwise. That one feature, though, will be viewed as pretty important, historically. Hopefully we don’t have to endure another term.

 

Meh...If you cannot follow a simple sentence, then your mis-statement of what I'd just said, is truly without any meaning or value.

 

You said he’s more fit to serve than most. Of those who have served in the office, he’s not in my top third. He’s milquetoast, at best, but that’s a stretch, really.

 

No, that is faulty analogizing.

Also, if one were to compare all national burger chains, and gauge one as better than any of the others, it would mean, that this best chain (which would not be Burger King, btw) could not, for practical purposes, be considered "unfit" to serve burgers. Since you need such straightforward things explained to you-- what is the "ideal," is not always relevant, in the imperfect world, in which we live. Anyone who neglects the concept of relativity, is unqualified to serve up an intelligent opinion. Unless one can point to better options which are realistic-- in either hamburger joints, or Presidential candidates-- saying that one is not "the best" possible, is a moot & irrelevant point.

 

I will remind you, though it is only a couple of posts from where you entered the conversation, that the criterion was not, that a nominee was not the best theoretically possible person for the job. The argument to which I'd responded, was about both major Parties offering candidates who are unfit for the office:

Jack Hays said: ↑
If the two major parties insist on nominating candidates unfit to serve as President then No Labels becomes a sensible alternative.


Biden is clearly not "unfit," was my point. Are you saying that your bottom two thirds of all our past Presidents, had been " unfit to serve?" If not, then I hope you will recognize that your argument is unsuited as a reply, to my post.

 

K

 

Could have used them in '16

 

I voted for Biden in 2020 to help get Trump out of office. I believe Biden has, since then, lost the mental acuity necessary to be President. I am a contributor to Nikki Haley's campaign.

 

Biden didn’t have the mental capacity for the job in 2020. He was never tested on the campaign trail. He just sat in his basement. Now he is totally unqualified to be president.

As for Mansion, he’s mediocre at best. Haley or DeSantis would be far better.

Trump is a dead end because he has alienated so many people, including many who would be qualified to serve in a second Trump administration. Even so, even he is preferable to Biden who unfit in every way.

 

The opportunity for a third party seems to be growing.
When Voters Say They Don't Want Trump vs. Biden, Listen
Holman Jenkins, WSJ

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This would create an interesting situation. If the major parties rerun Trump vs Biden then I would certainly vote for her.

Election 2024
Liz Cheney, outspoken Trump critic, weighs third-party presidential run
By Maeve Reston

 

Trump vs. Biden again? Voters say 'no, thanks.'
Relatively few Americans are enthusiastic about a potential rematch of the 2020 race between President Biden and Donald Trump, according to a new poll.

'I find it sad,' one Mo. Republican says »

 

Jack, this rematch is one most Americans don’t want. But neither party is listening to most Americans. They’re wrapped up in their own little cocoon.

‘Uniquely horrible choice:’ Few US adults want a Biden-Trump rematch in 2024, an AP-NORC poll shows

https://www.yahoo.com/news/few-us-adults-satisfied-possible-050344910.html

One can only hope RFK Jr. or the no labels party is well funded. Both Trump and Biden deserve to lose. I agree with your assessment that one is personally repulsive and one is politically repulsive. Both are seen negatively by 56% of all Americans. No matter who wins if it’s Trump or Biden, they’ll be an unwanted and disliked president from the get go. I think that say it all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-6677.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

 

I have contributed money to Haley's campaign.
If the major party choice is Trump vs Biden I will vote third party.

 

I was thinking that way but with Trump’s obvious hatred of Ukraine we cannot take the chance that Trump will win and Trump is well positioned to win. If anyone recalls Trumps tried to blackmail Prez Zalenskyy into making up lies about Biden before the 2020 campaign. Granted like many voters who are registered Republicans and maybe “independents” we do not want either guy to succeed for cifernt reasons.

 

Trump vs. Biden, me too.

 

Looking for an alternative.


America stares down a Trump-Biden repeat in disbelief and denial

 

2016 all over again. Sadly people are too caught up in ideology instead of actual research on the candidates, and too obsessed with "screw the other" instead of "what is best overall".

 

I would say you hit the nail right on the head.

 

Another reason to vote against Biden:
Under activist pressure, Biden administration pauses new natural gas exports
The White House has ordered the Energy Department to weigh the climate impacts of new liquefied natural gas terminals, which ship LNG to Europe and elsewhere.
By Maxine Joselow and Evan Halper

 

Another reason to vote against Trump:

Politics·The Wrap
‘Morning Joe’ Says Trump Is Being Kept From Debate Stage Due to Cognitive Decline: ‘Scared They Have to Bubble Wrap Him’ | Video