. No, not all people believe that....what a sad commentary you have on humans...sorry, you can't see the good in anyone... A. RvW hasn't been overturned because no one has ever come up with a reason or case or argument to overthrow it. B. If abortion is made illegal, taking away half the populations right to their own body, you should hope that someone someday doesn't decide you don't need to have the right to your own body... Abortions will continue. They have always been around and always will be around....legal or not.
Yes. Which is why I have been able to say no (independently) to optional activities which result in things I don't want. With full autonomy comes full responsibility.
. YES, many Anti-Choice posters have said EXACTLY that..... Uh DUH, that's giving up sex.... That doesn't make much sense at all.....so you think people unable to care for a child should be jailed or institutionalized?!! WTF.... Why should they do what you want them to do? If they don't want a baby they don't want a baby..... Why should fetuses be saved from abortion?
Yes, and women who don't want to be pregnant responsibly have an abortion.... Must be frustrating to not be able to dictate what others must do...or have the power to dictate what responsibility means...
I don't know seems we have to ask the average male why they keep having sex with women....... SEVEN billion people Say that again SEVEN billion people - most of whom live in appalling povrty If the average human being was capable of simply ignorance Ng basic biological urges do you think we would have that level of population?
Show such. Is it something they are forced to relinquish for the duration of their natural lives? A person cannot legally engage in sexual encounters when out and about in public, and must instead conduct themselves in a manner deemed socially acceptable, even if it requires refraining from engaging in certain desired behaviors and activities. Is such considered an unacceptable infringement as well? More accurately, what is being stated is that the only individuals who are permanently incapable of being ready to care for a child are those who are in jail or institutionalized. Then why did they not take proper precautions to begin with if they were not prepared to face the consequences of their actions? Why should fetuses be created in the first place simply because someone could not act in a mature manner?
Because they are idiots, the majority of which are easily capable of being outsmarted by the female half of the species. Then they have no excuse. Simply because they do not, does not mean that they cannot.
Which is not being denied. But due to biological constraints, the female half of the equation is the half that knows full well it is operating at a disadvantage, meaning it is the only half that is fully aware of its own limitations, thus putting it at the tactical advantage over the male half when it comes to the use and practical application of knowledge.
So....... if you have no intention of auctioning this in a positive way - why are you on this thread telling everyone to abstain? So far it seems, and correct me if I am wrong, your sole action plan in relation to abortion is to go on the internet and tell everyone that they are not as good as you are at organising thier lives. Havre I misinterpreted something here? No plan to assist people through education on options, no plan to assist in making options more available, not even a plan to assist with supporting women so they are not forced by circumstances beyond thier control (sudden loss of income, partner etc)......
Well your posts did not make it clear you were apportioning equal blame and if you look through the majority of posts by so called "pro lifers" on this forum the single most common response is "the young slut should have kept her legs together". Most are shocked when they find that the majority are over 20, living in a relationship for more than a month and have at least one child Now as for your defence - are you seriously trying to claim that men have less responsiblity because they are dirt ignorant? (Mind you - given how many on this forum are unaware of failure rates of contraception......)
And posting on the internet will do what? One of the primary reasons for poverty in the world is inability to space and limit the children in a family. It is no coincidence that those countries with the worst population growths are also those countries with the most restriticions on contraception and abortion. Nobody WANT abortion to be the primary method of birth control - too expensive for one thing - BUT it is a good plan C for many who find themselves in situations they could not forsee (sudden loss of income, support, illness, other children requiring more monetary support etc etc etc
Sooooo - to prevent unwanted pregnancy we have to lock women into seragllios?? Perhaps we should re-introduce the chastity belt? Mind you I would be in favour of that if it were for men......
So, the teen that was sexually abused by the mothers live in lover - she should have just said no? The teen kicked out of the house and living on the streets - her option - go on the game for a night or two to get money together to get some shelter and food - she has a choice? the married woman who gets pregnant but has two children - one of whom suddenly needs prolonged expensive medical care out of reach if they have another child The woman whose partner is becoming more abusive and having a child will tie her to him permanently? The woman who is in a relationship but one or both suddenly lose all income...... **** happens and the only thing that sitting back and saying "well they should not have had sex" does is make the person saying it feel better about themselves
You've been reading the thread, you've seen them. Totally irrelevant. WTF! Now you're brining in people having sex in public!? Gee, nice imagination... That was NOT what was posted. WHY SHOULD THEY? SHOW me the law that says women must use birth control....WHERE IS IT? SHOW ME!!!!!!!!! UH, I don't know, why don't you ask the manufacturer of humans why he made such flawed products...???????[/QUOTE]
Because they wanted to !!!!!! DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH The ONLY reason they need. You may not understand but it has a lot to do with ...FREEDOM, LIBERTY, the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS...… Humans do NOT need your permission to have sex, get over it!
...and they shouldn't...people who criticize others while their life isn't really too perfect should be in jail or institutionalized...
Most of that was gobbledygoop but you seem to mind "the female half of the equation is the half that knows full well it is operating at a disadvantage" ...and you want to ban abortion and dump more disadvantages on women...Gee, how nice! NOT!
oh my stars .. give up already. you two are so far on the back foot on this that it's no longer funny.
Based on what? So far you have offered No plan No viable suggestions No researched and validated counter arguments Why the heck would I feel like giving up