Abortion: why women get pregnant + feminism.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by spt5, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what? It's good for manufacturers and retailers to make a profit, who are you to judge anyway? Who are you to decide 'baby's don't need much?' That's pretty pompous. Yes babies need PARENTS who love them not just a sperm donor and a womb.

    Having penis/vagina sex is a commitment no matter who you are or what you individually believe. Only a psychopath would completely detach themselves from such an experience.

    Throwing an infant into daycare is a travesty. Parents that both have to work can work opposite shifts which will ensure one parent is always home. This is not ideal for infants but still better than daycare. Family is better than daycare but, again, not ideal for an infant. 'Mommy' is the best 'caretaker' for an infant and even the courts agree as they typically award custody of very young children to the mother (provided she is not a psychopath).





    Yes bad stuff happens but one can mitigate the intensity of the negative by planning ahead of time.

    I don't love anyone for no reason. In fact, I have to have lots of good reasons before committing myself to love someone. You are perhaps talking about infatuation which is often mistaken for deep, abiding, respectful and awe-inspiring love.
     
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    Well said. Can't add much to that.
     
  3. RPA1

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    Women are the ones who will be most impacted by a pregnancy so, IMO, it is most important to teach girls to make men prove themselves before the sexual commitment is made.

    My advice to men is to NOT put penis in vagina unless they have and have made a commitment however, a man will not have his body substantially impacted by a pregnancy.

    These are the reasons why we have morals, values and traditions....In order to teach the next generation not to screw up their lives because of an ejaculation and orgasm.
     
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    If as a male you are concerned protect yourself. Speak up and ask if the woman you are with would have an abortion. If you don't like her reply don't have sex. How difficult is that? You make it sound as if males have no options in this at all. You do have options and one may be just to go home alone. If males all wore condoms 80% of the abortions that have happened would not have.
    For women abortion is a form of birth control so she is always protected. If you don't like it wear a condom ask or masturbate. Those are the options.
     
  5. cassandrabandra

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    its a statement of fact, not a judgement



    well ... actually - with the commodification of sex that is common in modern western societies there are a lot of people who behave as if it is not ... a lot of people don't cope with intimacy without commitment, but they think that is more socially acceptable than being a clingon, so try to be "adu;t" about it.

    lol ...

    "adult" movies are not really for the emotionally mature.



    and can you provide some evidence based research to back this up?


    still happens


    a lot of "love" relationships probably do start out as some form of infatuation.

    the popular myths about "falling in love" tend to feed this.
     
  6. RPA1

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    Males have 0 options once penis is inserted into vagina. Also not all females tell the truth. It's always better to be as objective as possible when 'smitten.'

    What of the 20%? Are you willing to throw them under the bus in favor teaching them how to have 'safe' sex? Which 20% will that be anyway? With YOUR luck.....nevermind....
     
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    FFS!

    they can withdraw ...

    and really, men who are paranoid about women being untrustworthy only expose their own irrationality.
     
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    well, its a good thing that men now have to pay child support.

    if the impact of a pregnancy is what is rewuired to make a person take responsibility for their sexual behaviour, that way men can learn to be responsible too....



    he will have his life substantially impacted if he has to take responsibility.

    well, its actually a bit more complex than that.

    we have morals, values and raditions for a whole variety of reasons.
     
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    You are being a bit hysterical.
     
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    I'm all for men supporting their children, after all, it was they who put their penis in the vagina. It doesn't really matter what she said or promised, now he is responsible for a child. That's why I continue to tell men to not do the act that makes babies without a commitment.

    Waste of time and space. I think that's about it.
     
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    I don't think you know what hysteria is.
     
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    It was a popular term in the misogyny of the Dark Freud era.

    I think it was a term applied to any woman who so much as got a tear in her eye.

    Yes, those were the days. No doubt women are breaking down walls and doors trying to get back to those repressive, idiotic times...
     
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    its got something to do with "wandering womb" - apparently it originates from the greek for uterus, but was used to describe any "excess of emotion" in women ...

    funny thing is I don't recall pejorative terms being used to decribe men experiencing an "excess of emotion" -

    although we all know that men are frequently given to all kinds of overly emotive and irrational outbursts .

    :)
     
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    Here we go - another gratuitous mention of the words penis, vagina and penetration

    I am not a prude but your repeated focus on this one aspect of sex is.......interesting......

    It leads me to speculate about the person making the comments
     
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    Men rarely have an excess opf emotion, women routinely do. It is hormonal and natural, it is not their fault.
     
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    More stereotypes. I know you love them, Whaler, but they are so seldom true. Women express emotions more freely than men, but that doesn't mean they feel them more. Expressing emotions is not a bad thing, it is really too bad that more men cannot be freed from the societal expectations that bind them in repressing feelings.
     
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    lols - men DO express emotions very intensely,

    that is one of the reasons why most violent crimes are committed by men, and the way men behave at sporting events is emotionally highly charged.

    the responses of some of the men on this forum is also extremely emotional.

    but yes, often the reason some men are so aggressive and over the top is because they have repressed their emotions, and only express them in anger and rage (road rage is not usually just road rage - its usually the straw that breaks the camels back so to speak )

    often, men are a seething mess underneath.

    and men certainly cry a lot.

    and those who claim otherwise are fooling themselves.
     
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    don't go there ... its not a healthy place ....
     
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    :laughing:

    Yeah that is what we need, men and women running around hysterical. Awesome. There is a reason a woman hasn't been voted in president yet, and more women than men vote, so it certainly isn't your pet seterotype that men are preventing it.
     
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    :laughing:

    This is funny. The more you guys post the more your prejudice against men in general is apparent!
     
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    the reason you haven't had a woman head of state is because you are backward ....

    other countries haven't found a woman as head of state does terrible things to the body politic.
     
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    so its not true that men commit more violent crimes than women?

    its not true that men are more inclined than women to use violence and aggression as a way of ending a conflict?

    at least my "prejudices" are based on facts.
     
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    You know where your options are. If the male is not bright enough to know this he deserves what he gets. The 20% would still have been aborted but if males wore condoms they could prevent 80 out of every 100 abortions. If they did not have sex with a woman that used abortion as a birth control method they would cut the 20% as well. But I guess getting laid without a condom takes priority over the desire to cut the abortion rate. So like I said the male gets exactly what he asks for.
     
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    Whaler you apparently know nothing about the violent crime rates in any nation. You apparently know nothing about abuse suffered on others is perpetrated more often than not by the males of the world. These are the displays of this pent up emotions that males do not show by minor outbursts. They would rather save this emotion up until it pours out in violent acts. It is you that is laughable not by prejudice but lack of knowledge. You're across the board are the perhaps the poorest posters I have ever seen by one person.
     
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    What about if they just didn't dip their dicks?
     

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