The fetus is a potential person and becomes such when it is born. If the woman makes the choice not to abort she is accepting the fact that she will give birth. It is her right to make that choice not some murderer. If she has made the decision to carry the fetus to term than murder is acceptable.
LOL as I said most of your posts are so foolish it does make you the worst poster I have seen on any forum. Thanks for trying to play.
And that will only work when:- A) we actually WIN the war on drugs b) everyone forgets the recipe for "roofies" and GHB c) we actually successfully ban alcohol d) we get a cure for stupidity and horniness e) about then a guy with a forked tail and horns will tap you on the shoulder and tell you that it just froze over
Have I said that condoms are 100% effective? No I have not. They are still at least 80% effective which means that males concerned about pregnancy or abortion have the ability to prevent 80% of the situations. So I believe that males should learn how to put them on. Procreational sex is generally when two people have a commitment to each other and have discussed the idea of a child. I am certain that most of the abortions are not preformed on women who have decided before hand they want a child. I am sure that the number of happily married women have a far lower number of abortions than women who are not in such a relationship.
Why is the goal important when reality contradicts it? (Just wondering.) Neither women nor men think about children when they have sex most of the time. Even before modern technologies such as condoms, this was true. Women want someone who loves them ... so the "slim pickings" force them to legislate against men. Conversely, men want someone who loves them ... so the "slim pickings" force them to use violence against women. Both are wrong, but only we men know that it is wrong.
Child support does not give women control over men. Extremely rarely is child support more than enough to enable the child caregiver to more than squeak by. You will find very few single mothers who feel they have control over their children's fathers. LOL, condoms are not a modern technology. http://www.avert.org/condoms.htm 1000 BC The use of condoms has been traced back several thousand years. It is believed that around 1000 BC the ancient Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.14 100 - 200 AD The earliest evidence of condom use in Europe comes from scenes in cave paintings at Combarelles in France.15 There is also some evidence that some form of condom was used in imperial Rome.16
A) Drugs don't cause pregnancy. B) Most men DO NOT drug women. C) Getting drunk is a CHOICE. D) That's what abortion was supposed to cure. C) No everyone gives in to their immediate desires.
Child support proves that women can't adequately take care of children by themselves. This goes against the feminist 'you can have it all' dogma. Women need to choose better before spreading their legs.
Many women have taken care of children by themselves. Many a man has bailed to never be seen again at the news of pregnancy. However, women shouldn't have to take care of children by themselves ever. It's true many women make mistakes when choosing a mate, men also make those mistakes. It's difficult to judge character when young, or even when older. So many people are not what they seem, and then those who are honest and responsible themselves tend to assume others also are.
You know we can talk about what men and women shouldn't do relationship wise all day and night but the fact of the matter is that right now, outside this forum, people are doing whatever they want to and following their own paths in life and doing what they see fit for themselves, their partners, and their children. The majority of people are not here on these forums looking for advice on how to run their life, or looking for someone to tell them how to run their life, especially when it comes to their relationships. So yeah, you can say how much you 'think' someone should live their life but it's not really going to make all that much difference in reality.
So in America no-one gets drunk and has sex? No-one gets high and has sex? no-one is 16 horny and pissed off with parents? This is not about how you would like the world to be but how it is. Now let us find a fix for how it is instead of sitting about griping about "people who have no self control!"
ANNNND here it is folks the "it's all the fault of the sluts and whores" argument So, you get my favourite response Why do we not ask men to tie it in a knot? BTW you made my day - i have a standing bet with Whaler that the "spreads her legs" argument is used FAR more than the "it was his fault" response
If the government supports single mothers there wont be regular families. Theyll be easier to control and dependent on democrats.
How many? Is it 'most'...if so, why do they need child support money? I'm all for making men pay for their children but you make no sense. Many woman have killed the life inside them in order to 'escape' childbirth. Women should be more responsible as an infant is totally dependent on the mother. The best way to judge a person's character (with regard to this subject) is to see how they act in different situations without making a sexual commitment. That goes for both men and women. We should be emphasizing that to our children instead of emphasizing 'safe' sex.
Stop lying, I did not say that. Why should a man have to do that? Woman can get their tubes tied. (I figured your response should be met with an equal response) The only way it can be 'his fault' is if he rapes the woman which is a heinous crime. Otherwise, she accepted the 'baby injector' into her 'baby maker.' (I know how you recoil from factual depictions)
In the bold: Men can get snipped as well. Why are you being so one sided here? It seems you have a personal bias which shows your true disdain for woman. This is all about controlling women from your point of view. Men seem to stupid to wear condoms and to ego driven to have there parts altered so they can't reproduce. Your point of view is strictly about control of women and your misogynistic viewpoint.
men are too stupid to wear condoms yet women let them have sex with them without wearing condoms. You are silly. You claim he has bias, then you proceed to show that you have EXTREME bias against men.
Right, we should give such irresponsible people the right to decide whether or not they should commit premeditated homicide.
What's the point of playing the blame game again after the fact? Once a woman is pregnant she is pregnant, regardless of who was at fault is totally irrelevant at that point. The ball is now in her court and only she can make the choice to keep or terminate the pregnancy. Nobody can decide that for her.
How is that any different than allowing her to kill the child after he/she is born? BTW, on ignore? You liar!
There is a huge difference between a born child and a zygote. What is similar between a born child and a zygote such that the zygote should be protected in the same way is the real question here ?
My statement was a direct response to another poster advocating vasectomies. HINT: When you read a post, look to see if the poster is responding or just opining. That way you won't embarrass yourself like this again.
Aside from criminal rape...The woman consented to sex that could result in procreation. That is how she got pregnant. She had a choice and choose to do the act. Now she can choose to kill the life inside her or, give birth. The man has 0 choices other than to NOT do the act in the first place which is what I advise all men to do IF they have no commitment from the woman.
