ACA saves 50,000 lives

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  1. katzgar

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    the degree of desperation the right is exerting to discredit ACA is astounding. yes, forbes did indeed report it. yes, ACA is being "broken in". the report is indeed about lives saved by the ACA.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    kACA news, coming from the White House are not worth the internet page it is printed on.

    Does Obama and his administration ever tells the truth? Don't think so...
     
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    you oppose saving lives? why would that be?
     
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    That's because the WORKING Right is supporting the FREELOADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!. Every Lib I know either is living on entitlements or is a civil servant, but I repeat myself. :roll: The private sector is being reamed!! :steamed:
     
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    not a relevant comment

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    not even close to being based on facts.

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    the only problem is you made that up, he never said it
     
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    Bad news, Dutch - if some illegals with five kids move in next door, I don't get a day younger. And then there's this, which is even worse:

    Something startling is happening to middle-aged white Americans. Unlike every other age group, unlike every other racial and ethnic group, unlike their counterparts in other rich countries, death rates in this group have been rising, not falling.... The mortality rate for whites 45 to 54 years old with no more than a high school education increased by 134 deaths per 100,000 people from 1999 to 2014.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm over 54 and have more then high skrul education, so am not worrying. On the other hand, 134 deaths increase per 100,000 translates to something like 0.00134% increase over 15 years... Why are you worrying so much? :)
     
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    so you are completely rejecting and ignoring my proof from the CDC itself that these infection rates were falling PRIOR to the ACA?

    its amazing you try to paint me as a desperate righty... I've voted for democrats ya knob... I just hate the current group thats lying through their teeth... democrats need to start being held accountable for their lies and harm to americans... stop being the parties stooge and start thinking for yourself...

    I have irrefutable proof DIRECT FROM THE CDC... demonstrating the trend was already created before the ACA... the ACA had NO IMPACT on this trend that started prior to its passing or implementation... hospitals have spent hundreds of millions on this issue PRIOR to 2008... dating all the way back to 2002 in one CDC report...

    you can't lie your way out of this one with political denials and finger pointing... own your lies...
     
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    Its like his biography. I conflated and combined many of his speeches and created an narrative that illustrated the relevant point. Hey, if he can do it, so can I.
     
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    your comment isnt relevant. you cant in all honesty not see how having insurance saves lives.
     
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    Insurance doesnt save lives Drs and nurses do

    You know like Dr Carson
     
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    are you saying Obama never said he would create 5 million green jobs? because he did, and Hillary recently echo'd the same mantra...

    I'm confused, are you calling the poster a liar about that fact? do you want video proof those words came out of his mouth in the 2008?

    [video=youtube;tRpez4BtcQ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRpez4BtcQ4[/video]

    let me guess, you have an excuse for that as well? want to twist words or meaning? he said it dozens of times on dozens of speeches, you want those too?

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/15/hillary-mimics-obama-and-promises-millions-of-green-jobs/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/439/create-5-million-green-jobs/

    http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2012-10-11/the-5-million-green-jobs-that-werent
     
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    about what i expected
     
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    You mean shift so far to the Left that you cannot tell them apart from the Communist Democrats like you?
     
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    nope you dont get it

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    demonizing people with lies isnt nice. I went door to door for Nixon trying to sell something like the ACA and now Nixons hope has come true
     
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    the topic is the ACA saves lives, not green energy.....focus.
     
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    Yeah, the difference between 50,000 people who once had medical insurance and the number of people who lost their insurance because of Obamacare and had to die at home.

    But we saved $12 billion, so that's a plus.
     
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    What lies? Democrats in the US are Communist in nature.
     
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    why don'y you focus and dispute the proof I provided direct from the CDC dating back to 2002...

    (taps on your head) helloooooo mcflyyyyyy hellloooooooooo

    I notice you still haven't responded to the proof your "proof" is nothing more than cherry picking stats when it was declining long before the ACA was even written...
     
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    BINGO! Did not see it your way :roflol:
     
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    Forbes did not say any such a thing...A gent called Japsen in an opinion piece quoted the Regime on the issue

    As there has not been a single thing the Regime has said about the scheme that has proven true, I reject out of hand the premise of this thread.
     
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    It was a ridiculous leap to turn the regimes propaganda into a position by Forbes...

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    Hard to do when a 'truth' is simply a proclamation by the leader...

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    imaginary number, like the jobs saved and created or the $2500 in savings per family...the Regime cooks the numbers in the Obama world.
     
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    Lol! That's a good one right there. 1989 and 2003? ACA wasn't in existence then. And 2013? We were only getting started with ACA. Dude, it's 2015. That is where the stats make a difference.
     
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    demonizing is all you got?

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    never said forbes said it, i said forbes reported it...your desperation is showing

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    the focus is the ACA saved 5o,ooo lives
     

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