America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

The crime rate is LOW in every demographic and it's been trending downward for years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...244633/america-violent-crime-murder-rate-2018.

The intentional homicide rate is 5 people per 100,000. That makes murder RARE. One would have a far better chance of being struck by a car or overdosing on drugs.

Minorities aren't the only people who can apply for business development grants and loans.. The Rural Development Grant is also designed to stimulate business and these loans are quite substantial. You can also apply for loans on the state level, for SBA backed 7(a) loans or for money from a venture capitalist and you'd be more likely to get a bank loan or credit to fund your business than black small businesses, considering discrimination against blacks by lenders. No reasonable person will take you seriously, when you try to blame discrimination for your inability to start a business.

 

Because ANY person who is handicapped can use that toilet. It is unconstitutional in this country to discriminate upon age, sex, race, nationality or religion.

I’ll ask you for the fourth time. You say we aren’t discriminated against because we have access to other loans, grants and contracts. I’ll ignore the tax credits for businesses who hire minorities over white people for now.

But would it be discriminatory if we had a government program that provided grants and loans to white people but excluded black people even if black people had access to all the other loans that everyone else had access to? Or would you find that incredibly racist and discriminatory?

 

You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t care about someone being called a racist name by someone else when they don’t give a damn about me being systematically discriminated against by our government based on our skin color. Not only do they not care but they support it and advocate for policy that does exactly that.

 

Really? So you’d be fine if we gave tax credits to businesses who hire white contractors but we didn’t provide them for hiring black contractors?

That’s not racist or discriminatory?

 

That’s irrelevant. Would you consider it racist and discriminatory if we had government grants and loans that white people could receive but excluded blacks?

Would you find it racist and discriminatory if we gave tax credits to businesses for hiring white contractors but not blacks?

Would you find it racist and discriminatory if we had a white congressional caucus whose STATED goal was the advancement of policies that benefit the white population?

Would you find it racist and discriminatory if we had government monies through a program available to EVERY race except for black people? And they could access those funds but blacks have to jump through a bunch of hoops that nobody else had to jump through to access those same funds?

You would? So why don’t you consider it racist and discriminatory when it’s done to white people?

Furthermore if you folks don’t care about that type of systemic discrimination that occurs TODAY why should we give a crap about some black guy getting called a racist name or discrimination against blacks that happened YEARS ago?

 

And of course murder is rare.

But we could drop it by 50% if 6% of our population (black males) would stop committing so much damn violence.

You don’t think it’s a problem when 6% of our population is committing approximately 50% of our murder? Are you freaking serious?

 

They DON'T commit a lot of murder. That's what RARE means but men in general commit the vast majority of infrequent violent crimes. So why don't we have a society that's free of all of men or punish them all, when the overwhelming majority of men (including black men) aren't involved? We don't because It's immoral, illegal and irrational. Are you serious or trolling us??

 

You are not prevented from receiving grants, loans, contracts or anything else.

You wouldn't be as confused if you just learned what discrimination means.

 

I'm more concerned about my ability to thrive than about what an imbecile calls or thinks about me. However, if hate speech creates a hostile environment that interferes with my ability to work, receive an education or enjoy public spaces peacefully then we have a problem that can result in litigation.

I don't have a problem with the set asides because as others have said, they are an attempt to level the playing field. If you didn't already have more than a fair opportunity to excel those programs might be necessary. Since, that is not the case, the programs that you mentioned wouldn't be justified. Your post is rife with false equivalencies.

 

Because it's a fact.

The overwhelming majority of shootings in the USA happen in places like Chicago, New Orleans, Detroit, etc.

No, it does not.

 

Texas and Floridia are States. I'm talking about cities.

Gun crime RATES in CITIES controlled by Democrats are the highest in the country by a wide margin. That is just a fact.

 

You realize what you just said is kind of racist, right?

 

Here is a fact. You can see it clearly

 

That fact in no way contradicts the fact that the overwhelming majority of gun crime in the US is localized within cities controlled by Democrats.

 

So someone calling you a name and SUSPECTING that you didn’t get a job or something should result in litigation.

But government sponsored programs which EXPLICITLY discriminate against people because the color of their skin is white is perfectly acceptable because their ancestors benefitted unfairly at the expense of these other peoples ancestors.

You have to be some kind of parody. Because nobody can be that absurdly hypocritical.

I’ll ask you again. Is it constitutional to discriminate based upon race or not? Or is it just constitutional to discriminate against white people based on their race?

 

You cannot use the toilet if here is a handicapped person there. But you can still have access to it. Like some grants
I keep answering you. Those businesses are getting tons of tax credits all the time but I’m sure that doesn’t bother you even though it’s probably coming out of your pocket and going into their’s but that’s another point. In your mind you see these businesses only hiring minorities and not white people because you have to see things that way in order to justify victimhood. These businesses are hiring tons of white people so you don’t have to get all upset. When they do to white people what they did to women and blacks in the past then maybe you will have a point. To answer your last question we have had government programs that provided grants and loans to white people and excluded black people and women. You don’t understand the concept of correcting injustices. Your fake argument doesn’t work because white people have tons of opportunities When white people are excluded from scholarships and admission to certain schools just because they are white I will be with you on that. But it doesn’t happen so the argument is moot
Another analogy is a race where the person in the outside lane is at a disadvantage so she starts a few feet ahead. The person on the inside lane has a much easier run. That’s correcting the balance

 

America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem.

America doesn't have a 'black problem'. What we have is an orange problem. A really bad orange problem.

 

So discrimination By race is fine as long as they’re not forbidden?

Great then we need to start a program that gives tax credits to businesses for hiring white people but not for blacks people. And that will be fine as long as quite a few black people are still being hired?

Cool. We should also have white dorms that blacks are excluded from like they have. As long as blacks are allowed in other dorms. Right? That’s not discrimination.

We need to provide tax credits to white people for having children that black people cant get. And that’ll be fine because blacks are getting government assistance for their children in other ways right?

We should have government scholarships for white athletes that blacks can’t get because they’re grossly underrepresented in collegiate sports. I mean that would be fine because black kids are still getting scholarships elsewhere. Right?

Cool I’m down with that.

 

OK you win it’s a waste of time because you cannot see the difference between exclusion and inclusion. Blacks and women were excluded so they formed their own groups. An example is people who many years whined because there was a miss black America contest ..And that was because black women were excluded from the Miss America contest. Now Miss America has both black and white women so there is no need for an inclusive group.Do you think white women are upset because they can’t be in a miss black America contest?
By the way let me educate you about something ..you are right about white athletes being underrepresented in college sports and they are offering more scholarships to them to make the teams more diversified.

 

Exactly what does "age-adjusted death rates" mean in this regard? Why does the above graphic refer to firearm-related deaths as a whole, rather than separating the homicide and suicide rates into their own distinct categories?

 

No I understand the difference. But you seem to think the ONLY way to discriminate against someone is to completely exclude them.

You’re essentially arguing that separate but equal is okay. You’re actually going even further. You’re saying separate but unequal is okay as long as the other side has access to SOME of the benefits.

 

Because if he did that his point would be bs And he knows it.

 

Awwww, poor white child ... he wants to be treated just like black Americans - but he really doesn't - because he knows he would have to put up with bull crap of being always looked on with suspicion by moronic white supremacist, would have to accept the fact that he's more likely to put in jail for being innocent, more likely to be denied car loans and home loans even though he pays his bills.

No, white dude doesn't want to be treated like black Americans, he just wants to pretend that he is outraged by their "special" treatment ... but, oh no - he really doesn't want to be treated like black Americans because he wants to put them all in jail or deport them to countries they never lived in. He wants to blame a black doctor in Texas for all the crimes committed by a black man in Chicago - but no, he doesn't want to be treated that way himself - he doesn't want to be blamed every time a white guy shoots up a school. But he wants to blame a black nurse in Miami for every crime a black dude in Memphis thinks about.

He complains about "special" treatment 3% of the time ... but he doesn't want to be treated like a black person the other 97% of the time. No, no. he doesn't.

 

Lol no I’m fine with discrimination. I just don’t want to hear you black people cry about it when it’s YOU who is getting discriminated against.

If discrimination based on race is constitutional that’s completely fine to me. Discriminate against me. But just be aware that blacks will be legally and systematically discriminated against as well.

But see you don’t want that. If we discriminate against blacks you’ll cry to high heaven about how unfair and racist we are.

I said it before. If you want equality. I’m all for equality and I’ll fight that battle with you side by side. But make sure you understand. If what you want is inequality with blacks at the advantage and your neck on the boot of white people... we are going to have a problem. And I promise it’s a problem your side doesn’t want.

 

Awww, I know you have it so rough as a white person. Hell, maybe someday you'll be able to elect a white person to Congress - or maybe - and I know this is just a dream - maybe even elect a white person President. Maybe someday a white person will become the CEO of a major corporation. I know you can't believe it now, you being so repressed and all - but maybe someday, all this will happen.