American terror plots since 9/11: Muslims vs. Non-Muslims

Interesting list of perps. What well known easily identified, cohesive group or religious sect do they belong to?

 

They're all Muslims, preseumably.

 

That, evidently, is the high hard one that zips right through your wheelhouse. None of them are Muslims. Each an individual madman. As opposed to the possibility of an organized, trained, communicating, group of terrorists.

 

Sorry but this is a total straw man.
You have to be able to do better than this if you want to persuade me to your side.

All these guys have appeared to acted alone and were not brainwashed by a larger organization. If there was a specific catholic church that had 10's of thousands of members that was literally saying ' go out and kill abortion doctors and you'll go to heaven' I would be all for each and every one of those members being rounded up and interrogated.

Once again - DOES THAT MAKE ME RACIST AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE?

Listen it's quite easy. Muslims currently are carrying out far more terrorist act against the west then any other group. There's nothing wrong with putting pressure on them to clean up their F'ing community.
I don't know what the issue is with that. I mean for so long many on the left blamed all of the attacks on Bush and believed they would all end once Obama took over. They are not.
Now it's time to send a message to the Muslim community. Clean up your Sh*t. Admit there is an element in your population that needs to be dealt with and deal with it.

 

Even when you break this down by group affiliation, Islamonazi's are by far the largest and most dangerous terror group. Too bad your story did not confirm your transparent bias.

 

Also what i don't like about this is the hypocrisy. If the Religious Right in the US suddenly started acting even a fraction as oppressive as fundamental Islam you'd all be going nuts.

I mean imagine if they started saying that it was ILLEGAL to be gay and potentially punishable by death

- That women couldn't dress in clothes they wanted to dress in

- that you had to believe in Jesus or you could be harrassed and punished or even killed

- That society was basically run by men and women were only useful for sex and babies

the list goes on and on.

Remember a year ago or so when that Lesbian wasn't able to take her date to Prom and the town pretty much screwed her over. Myself and others were upset about it. Imagine for a second. Just imagine what would happen if two Lesbians (one dressed as a man) decided to got to a Fundamental Muslim celebration. You guys are fighting for the wrong side on this. You don't want this here. You don't want a stronger influence in the USA of this crap.
It's bad enough with the Religious Right in the country. The last thing you all want is the Islamic Right to take over which is far far far worse.

I really don't understand it.

 

The "Inquisition" was not the best of times for the Catholic Church. History tells us the Church itself used terrorism, and torture, and killing, to amass land, money, and power. PC today would not allow us to even suggest the Church could do such a thing. But we know they did. And I'm a former alter boy.

 

I was actually being sarcastic. Congratulations on missing the point.

 

I think he got the point perfectly. They are not Muslims. You can't identify them as a single group or believing in the same ideology. What would you call these people? What group do they belong to? Do they look at the same websites or info? Do they have a 'leader' that guides them? Where did they get their training...etc.

 

Is it a requirement to be a part of a group to be a terrorist?

 

Seriously man, this is your response?

 

You keep saying they have assisted in stopping terrorism. Please name one instance in which Muslims, or even a single Muslim have stepped forward and done anything to stop an act of terrorism by one of their co-religionists.

 

Never hear about an Atheist blowing up Abortion Clinics, or shooting up Army bases. Its always idiot Muslims, and idiot Christians. Why even have this debate when both religions spawn morons, and one is just as ridiculous as the other? You both believe in non sense. This "My god is better than your god" concept is the definition of retardation.

 

Zero,

It boils down to a definition of terrorist plot. It seems that when someone other than a Muslim attacks another person, and any political or racial reason can be found it is considered a terrorist plot.

If the terrorist acts committed by or attempted by Muslims were in the same category, I would say Mr. King was wrong, but we know they are not. Muslim extremists attacks are not primarily aimed at single individuals. Their intent is, instead, to kill the greatest number of people possible. Because of this, Muslim extremism poses a much greater threat than other crimes classified as terrorism and aimed at single individuals, ie the killing of an abortion doctor.

 

Agreed, but right now Muslims are carrying out more crimes. THe problem is that the LEFT that should be against Muslims because they are worse than Christians in the ideology, for some reason support them. It's insane.
The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. I love it when I hear some of my gay friends that I know talk about how 'they' should leave muslims alone when the first thing that would happen if they went to an islamic country is most likely be thrown in jail.

 

Yes, it is.

I have provided statistics that indicate that a certain percentage are stopped by Muslims. I don't have to give a specific name when that percentage is abundantly clear. Similarly, I don't have to provide a name of a person out of a job to prove that there is 9% unemployment (or whatever it is).

Would you consider Timothy McVeigh a terrorist? Because it wasn't a group, it was him and a guy.

 

Its because most Atheists have so much hate for Christianity they ignore Muslims, you're right, but they don't support them. They just don't think they should all be treated like (*)(*)(*)(*), and neither do I.

 

Its not politically incorrect to criticize the KKK, Militias, Anti abortion extremist, etc. They dont have any support. FBI, CIA, Homeland Security are already monitoring their activity. When Obama came into office his first National intelligence assesment named right wing extremist recruited from veterans was the threat to be concerned about. On the other hand, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security have all gone through sensitivity training when it comes to Muslims. The Fort Hood shooter is a good example. He was right under their nose and political correctness kept them from doing anything.

 

I am for Muslims. I am against Muslim terrorists.

 

Why even be for Muslims? Every religion will eventually breed extremists, so why support a religion at all?

 

We all know of those moderate Klansmen...

And nobody supports them because they used to hang people and because it is their thing to hate. It is not the thing of all Muslims to hate; some of them yes.

 

I believe that religion can provide people a sense of moral purpose. I support it when it serves a beneficial purpose. That doesn't happen to include ramming planes into building or shooting abortion providers in the face.

 

It does neither. It takes away peoples need to think for themselves, and makes everybody think they are somehow better than people that don't believe in the mythical god they do. "Righteous" is just another word for "I'm better than you".

 

Fair enough. Are you for the Religious Right but against Doctor Killers?

Please say you're for the Religious Right too. Or else you are living with some serious cognitive dissonance

 

Please. Like all Muslims want to stone women or something...

I am for anyone that recognizes human rights, whether they be Muslim, Christian, Jew, etc.