ANDREW YANG FOR PRESIDENT 2020

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Do you like the idea of a Basic Minimum Income?

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  3. I am not sure yet but I will research this idea.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well this is certainly an interesting platform I must admit.

    I am a Trump supporter and I would not be shocked to see President Donald Trump seriously discussing coopting some of Mr. Andrew Yang's proposals.

    This might be just the excuse that he needs to finish what I think he set out to do beginning back in 1991.



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    Something happened in President Trump's life back in 1991 that in my opinion prepares him to be able to take some of Mr. Andrew Yang's ideas quite seriously.



    Did going bankrupt in '91 prepare Mr. Trump for the Presidency?



     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is pretty obvious why I would be extremely interested in the Andrew Yang campaign:


    I am attempting to set Mr. Maxime Bernier up with something that can be huge......
    I am thinking of Mr. Bernier as a star lob ball batter up at bat.... I am attempting to lob the softball into the strike zone to the best of my ability............ and I regard Mr. Bernier as capable of taking one step either north, east, south or west........
    and hitting the ball out of the park......... and getting a grand slam home run....... because all 338 bases are loaded!!!!!!

    The analogy kind of breaks down because I am on Mr. Bernier's team as well! I would love to see him bat this out of the park but..... I have to admit that what I have in mind is somewhat offensive to many PPC members. Discussion of this option for later on can prove that the PPC is the party of freedom of thought and expression which can inspire many Canadians to join us as well.

    Mr. Bernier does NOT have to swing at this pitch.... and he certainly doesn't need to take one step in the direction of this pitch but.......... over the coming several months if this topic generates a lot of discussion we might be surprised where this could lead. I am thinking in terms of the PPC having double the membership of the CPC by the time of the election!

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1285822358102105/permalink/3013048335379490/
    "Dennis is absolutely correct that an UBI would expand the women's choice from a much more loving fiscal point of view." (JakeStarkey)



    I am seeking the nomination to represent the PPC here in Central - Nova and part of my platform will be an anti-feticide bill with the wording: "A ban on intra-cardiac potassium chloride injections on singletons."

    I have a policy initiative in mind for the inevitable PPC leadership race that could lead to a massive decrease in Canadian women choosing to have an abortion. Simply discussing this issue publicly could lead to thousands or even tens of thousands of new memberships in the PPC?

    Five hundred dollars per Canadian per month, can this work?

    I am advocating the usage of the Bank of Canada that is owned by all Canadians to finance giving five hundred dollars per month to all thirty seven million Canadians.

    Would the incidence of Canadian women choosing to have an abortion plummet by a huge percentage? Personally I do think so!

    It will of course mean much more to poorer Canadians than to millionaires........
    but it could be surprising how many stay at home wives with cheap and stingy millionaire husbands who control the purse strings of the home may find this extra five hundred very helpful indeed.

    I suspect that well over eighty percent of of Canadians will spend this money reasonably well and:
    1. enrol their kids in more after school programs.....
    2. begin to purchase a higher percentage of organic produce vs the cheap GMO stuff
    3. purchase a newer car, SUV or half ton truck
    4. do renovations to their homes
    5. hire landscapers to do certain projects on their properties
    6. pay down their debt loads, especially the higher interest ones
    7. buy a new home rather than renting
    8. buy a cottage outside the city so that they can get away for weekends
    9. many will choose to move to rural Canada in order to escape relatively hectic city life
    10. eat at nice restaurants more often

    I suspect that less than ten percent of Canadians will attempt to live off this five hundred dollars / month and simply use it to drink or smoke more.

    To whatever degree this happens the worst cases where these Canadians put themselves and others in danger this can be dealt with by issuing food stamps vs a monthly check.

    I have listened to an audio video over and over again that explains what President Obama did from 2009 - 2014 and I came up with this idea because it is close to being the OPPOSITE to what President Obama did. He gave billions to the top one percent of the top one percent of the INVESTOR CLASS of Americans........ .and if he was expecting a trickle down effect to create jobs..... that certainly DID NOT happen!

    Technically I am also advocating a variation of Quantitative Easing but......
    my plan of sending it to ALL CANADIAN CITIZENS vs sending it pretty much all to INVESTORS.... makes my plan uniquely different.
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    Wouldn't this give the victims of crime a reason to sue the offender in court and thus receive a portion of their BMI for many years. This could become one of the major reasons for criminals to think twice before harming somebody!

    This also could become a major reason for women in America to freely choose to
    keep their babies as opposed to having an abortion. Technically this would be an
    expansion of their range of freedom of choice but it could certainly reduce the incidence of
    women choosing to have an abortion.

    Would a Basic Minimum Income dramatically reduce abortions?

    Will a Minimum Basic Income dramatically reduce the incidence of abortions?

    1. Perhaps by 1- 10 percent over the present rate.
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    2. Perhaps by 11 to twenty percent over the present rate.
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    3. Perhaps twenty one to thirty percent over the present rate.
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      Perhaps by even more than by thirty percent?
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    1. Universal Basic Income of $1k/month per adult ("the Freedom Dividend");
    DOA, simply unafordable.
    1. Evolution to the next stage of capitalism, "Human Capitalism" geared toward optimizing around human well-being in addition to GDP; and
    Human capitalism? You mean government dictating how capitalism will work, which of course never works.
    1. Single-payer healthcare—necessary in the aftermath of job reduction.
    Lowest historical unemployment in every demographic. Companies unable to fill positions. Where is the job reduction?
     
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    The idea of this being simply unafFordable does NOT fit with what I have read of USA history and central banking policies........ or the lack thereof?

    Is there evidence from history that indicates that leaders in the USA banking community may have been
    less than completely altruistic and ethical and fully in line with President Lincoln's desire to end slavery and
    keep the USA united?

    How patriotic were bankers during the time of the Civil War?




     
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    So let's just assume there are 100 million just working families in the US. Where would the 1.2 trillion a year come from?
     
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    An increase in productivity as middle class and relatively lower income American will spend most of this
    on fairly necessary renovations to their properties and homes. Wealthier American would probably use their
    one thousand dollars per month to pay down their higher interest credit card debt.

    The one point two trillion can be created much as President Abraham Lincoln did at virtually no cost to USA taxpayers
    in comparison to how we are doing things at this time by dumping billions and billion on banks which only encourages them to enlarge the DERIVATIVES market which Jim Rickards stated is a lot like poker chips that the extreme wealthy use to play around on the stock markets and other markets much like many people do at casinos.

    I've listened to the following interview about ten times already. It is by CIA economist Jim Rickards and
    what I take from this is that the policy pursued by President Obama and his administration from 2009
    to 2014 at least prevented a full scale Great Depression like 1929 but.......
    we will have to do something different from what President Obama did if we want to prevent a
    "ONE HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLAR MELTDOWN" in the USA and world Derivatives market!

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...


    Please take another look at post #6 here to see what President Lincoln did.... and you would also want to note that:

    The History of Banking Control in the United States
    Written by Alain Pilote on Saturday, 31 August 1985. Posted in In This Age of Plenty (book)



    I have made some suggestions as to what I think some of our best alternatives are:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ada-and-unified-field-theory-of-m-w-p.548225/


    and......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/should-sorek-2-be-in-australia-or-california.530861/
     
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    Dennis that CIA fear video is 5 years old, and there has been no collapse yet, so far. Either they fixed the problem or the economy didn't snap like they thought it would.
     
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    You appear to think that people would be responsible with this. You are sadly mistaken.
     
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    Responsible? How I spend my money isn't your business.
     
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    But this is simply not my business.......
    that is their own business!



     
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    That $1000 per month will help solve the health care problem.
     
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    I have no clue why anyone would think giving money for nothing is a good idea.

    What I could get behind is some style of govt mandated corporation that distributes half of profits to paying down debt, and the other half to every legal resident that pays income taxes.
     
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    You mean how you spend my money.
     
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    It would be your business since they would be spending your money.
     
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    I wasn't there to invent the wheel!

    I had no involvement in the invention of the steam engine.

    I wasn't a farmer on the prairies clearing the land for a cattle ranch.

    I wasn't with Einstein coming up with the Theory of Relativity.

    I wasn't there to put the first Model T through the factory.

    Canada and America are in a place where our productive capability is astonishing....... and in a sense.... this was done by our ancestors... .all of our ancestors. So it is like thirty seven point six million Canadians and over three hundred and twenty million American have an INHERITANCE coming to them through their ASTONISHING PRODUCTIVE CAPABILITY at this time under these conditions!

    Yes.. there are dangers in this... but this option is better than
    another 1929 that if it occurs will be due to ignorance of the larger picture.

    Monetary Reform and How a National Monetary System Should Work
    ....
    A poster on this forum wrote something that IF TRUE.....
    means that if things are done ethically it would be just as easy for the USA
    to have a better system as is the case in Canada where all thirty seven million Canadians already do OWN our own Bank of Canada.

    Who Actually Owns the Fed and Why That Must End


     
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    All done without guaranteed income.
     
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    YOU are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT THIS!!!!

    Americans need to know how they have been scammed for centuries!



    Do we Canadians owe America an apology for 1750 - 1783?


     
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    Word has it that President Trump finally got control of the Fed
    so the massive increase in the Derivatives market should slow down
    but the core of the problem is still there hanging over our heads like the proverbial
    Sword of Damocles.

    There is a good side to this though...... we have to think in terms of the much larger picture. It
    is the only way to stop that One HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLAR MELTDOWN that Mr. Jim Rickards
    stated back in 2014 was headed our way.

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...

    I'm just a school janitor who has been researching these topics for over forty years.
    If I can come up with a plan with potential... then just imagine what some of the really
    bright intellects of our time period should be able to do once they start thinking outside
    the box that was made for them?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...theory-of-m-w-p.548225/page-3#post-1070251613

    Most of us are thinking in terms of whether an idea is true or false and how it can be proven but I suggest LIGHTEN UP... .and take a look at the potential ARTISTIC VALUE in ideas????

    We are in a position where we can deliberately set the stage for the prediction by Pastor David Wilkerson from 1973 to come to pass......... and it sure is BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS!!!!

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

     
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    That is a valid point..... but let's face it.....
    our young people have serious issues....... they cannot get off their phones long enough to hold down
    most types of jobs. We don't want them to starve to death..... or freeze to death on the streets in the winter....
    .and so something simple and unconditional
    may be one of the only ways to take care of them without creating a massive bureaucracy that will cost us
    more than a mere eighteen billion annually. My plan involves giving five hundred Canadian to all Canadians......
    rich and poor alike!

    Due to the really serious mess that he has himself and his Liberal Party in politically at this time it is even
    possible that P. M. Justin Trudeau might even admit that his dad made a COLOSSAL ERROR BACK IN 1974....
    and put this in motion even before this next Canadian federal election. In a way... this would make up for many of
    his serious errors over these last four years!

    Would a Basic Minimum Income dramatically reduce abortions?



    Plus.... the threat of a ONE HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLAR MELTDOWN is no joke.... .it is a possibility that
    must be factored into any workable response to this.

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...
     
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    Being a 'good parent' doesn't mean you enable bad behavior. The best education is tough love. That means throwing someone out so they have to sink or swim, the best way to inspire someone to actually take charge of their own lives.

    Same with government but feelings are more important than outcomes.
     
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    I think differently than you do......
    Here in Canada Mr. Maxime Bernier is perfectly set up to hit the ball out of the park...... (see post #3 above)...



    and in the USA President Donald J. Trump is perfectly set up to coopt some aspects of the Andrew Yang platform and
    accomplish his objective of becoming the President who finishes what was began by President Lincoln and JFK.
     
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    Because what I am suggesting is very close to being the polar opposite to the approach that President Obama and his team took from 2009 - 2014........ President Obama gave billions and billion and billions to banks and other large institutions............
    but I am proposing giving the same amount of money across the board to all Canadian citizens.... and I am hoping that this is soon applied in the USA as well.

    President Obama gave billions and billion and billions to those who were already wealthy....... There is a good side to what he did because it did prevent a full scale replica of 1929 from happening....... but money all across the board will stimulate the economy directly and will not depend on TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT?!

    If you were to take forty six minutes of your time to listen to CIA economist Jim Rickards you may see why I think that this is close to being the polar opposite to what President Obama did........ which should imply achieving very different results than his policy got:



    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...
     
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    Bush and Obama didnt give a penny to wealthy people. They gave it to the banks to stabilize them to prevent a further run on entire financial system.
     
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