Do we Canadians owe America an apology for 1750 - 1783?

DennisTate · Sep 17, 2017

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!
(thread created April 13, 2013)

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...w-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.298013/

Secondly I would like to express my guilt/shame over the fact that my ancestors were gullible and obviously we bought into stories regarding the cause of the American Revolutionary War that were exaggerated and in many cases outright lies!

The History of Banking Control in the United States

http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty49.htm
Alain Pilote:

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming "New England", a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: "Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe." Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

"That is simple," Franklin replied. "In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one."

The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

"In one year," Franklin stated, "the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed."

Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

"The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War."

The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

"Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof."
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DennisTate · Sep 17, 2017

My last name is English through Northern Ireland..... we English aristocrats basically came up with a plan to keep the average American..... and Canadian.... and Brit..... running like the proverbial Gerbil on a treadmill.

DennisTate · Sep 17, 2017

Although Mr. Donald Trump was certainly in the top one percent of the top one percent of the USA population for wealth and influence back in 1988 - 1990..... he certainly had little control over the rate of interest that he was forced to pay to build the Taj Mahal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

......."Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt."
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Jonsa · Sep 17, 2017

Seriously? Canada should apologize for something that happened 100 or so years before Canada even existed?

Always somebody else to blame - wot?

Max Rockatansky · Sep 17, 2017

DennisTate said: ↑

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!
(thread created April 13, 2013)

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...w-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.298013/

Secondly I would like to express my guilt/shame over the fact that my ancestors were gullible and obviously we bought into stories regarding the cause of the American Revolutionary War that were exaggerated and in many cases outright lies!

The History of Banking Control in the United States

http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty49.htm
Alain Pilote:
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No since Canada was still a British colony. Most our the US founders didn't want independence, much less war with Britain. All they wanted was to be treated as full British citizens, not as servants or ruffians. When the Brits only ratcheted up their abuses, we were left with no other option but to fight for our rights. Canada wasn't as developed as the colonies further south, containing less than 5% of the total number of British colonists living in North America. (1) Which also means they were not as affected by British abuses since they had so little to be abused.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/goweezer/canada/can1700.htm

JakeStarkey · Sep 17, 2017

The Americans want to conquer Canada, tried it once in the War of Independence (and failed), tried seven times in the War of 1812 (and failed).

Stay home, Yankee Doodle.

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

Jonsa said: ↑

Seriously? Canada should apologize for something that happened 100 or so years before Canada even existed?

Always somebody else to blame - wot?
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An apology for the error of our ancestors may be the easiest way to
educate many Americans and Canadians to the truth of how the economies of the 13 colonies boomed from
1700 - 1750 and then how their economies went into decline after England
initiated a highly unethical policy.

One of President Lincoln's advisors knew the history and was able to assist
President Abraham Lincoln to save American taxpayers FOUR BILLION DOLLARS
in interest payments. This aspect of our history is critical for our time period as well.

http://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
Melvin Sickler:

During the Civil War (1861-1865), President Lincoln needed money to finance the War from the North. The Bankers were going to charge him 24% to 36% interest. Lincoln was horrified and went away greatly distressed, for he was a man of principle and would not think of plunging his beloved country into a debt that the country would find impossible to pay back.

Eventually President Lincoln was advised to get Congress to pass a law authorizing the printing of full legal tender Treasury notes to pay for the War effort. Lincoln recognized the great benefits of this issue. At one point he wrote:

“... (we) gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they have ever had – their own paper money to pay their own debts...”

The Treasury notes were printed with green ink on the back, so the people called them “Greenbacks”.

Lincoln printed 400 million dollars worth of Greenbacks (the exact amount being $449,338,902), money that he delegated to be created, a debt-free and interest-free money to finance the War. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private. He printed it, paid it to the soldiers, to the U.S. Civil Service employees, and bought supplies for war.

Shortly after that happened, “The London Times” printed the following: “If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

The Bankers obviously understood. The only thing, I repeat, the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money. They know it would break the power of the international Bankers.

In retaliation
After this was published in "The London Times", the British Government, which was controlled by the London and other European Bankers, moved to support the Confederate South, hoping to defeat Lincoln and the Union, and destroy this government which they said had to be destroyed.

They were stopped by two things. First, Lincoln knew the British people, and he knew that Britain would not support slavery, so he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared that slavery in the United States was abolished. At this point, the London Bankers could not openly support the Confederacy because the British people simply would not stand for their country supporting slavery.

Second, the Czar of Russia sent a portion of the Russian navy to the United States with orders that its admiral would operate under the command of Abraham Lincoln. These ships of the Russian navy then became a threat to the ships of the British navy which had intended to break the blockade and help the South.

The North won the War, and the Union was preserved. America remained as one nation.

Of course, the Bankers were not going to give in that easy, for they were determined to put an end to Lincoln's interest-free, debt-free Greenbacks. He was assassinated by an agent of the Bankers shortly after the War ended.

Thereafter, Congress revoked the Greenback Law and enacted, in its place, the National Banking Act. The national banks were to be privately owned and the national bank notes they issued were to be interest bearing. The Act also provided that the Greenbacks should be retired from circulation as soon as they came back to the Treasury in payment of taxes.

In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money. So you can about imagine how much the Government has paid and how much we owe solely on the basis of interest.
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DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

Max Rockatansky said: ↑

No since Canada was still a British colony. Most our the US founders didn't want independence, much less war with Britain. All they wanted was to be treated as full British citizens, not as servants or ruffians. When the Brits only ratcheted up their abuses, we were left with no other option but to fight for our rights. Canada wasn't as developed as the colonies further south, containing less than 5% of the total number of British colonists living in North America. (1) Which also means they were not as affected by British abuses since they had so little to be abused.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/goweezer/canada/can1700.htm

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Thank you immensely for that link to "A Brief History of Canada."

I had completely forgotten about these details.......

1774

With Guy Carleton's help and input, the Québec Act was instituted in 1774. By the Act, criminal law would be under British laws, but the French Canadians retained their civil laws. The Act also guaranteed religious freedom for the French Roman Catholics.

1775-1776

The Québec Act was so powerful and wide-spread that it actually incited the American Revolution, which began in 1775. On November 13 of that year, Revolutionaries under the command of Richard Montgomery captured Montréal. A month later, on December 31, Montgomery was killed during the attack on Québec. Guy Carleton was able to withstand the American siege on Québec until May 6, 1776, when a British fleet arrived and expelled the Americans southward. Carleton was later knighted for his efforts.
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DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

The Americans want to conquer Canada, tried it once in the War of Independence (and failed), tried seven times in the War of 1812 (and failed).

Stay home, Yankee Doodle.
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Canadians in the town of Truro, Nova Scotia seem to be facing a problem that is so big that they will need assistance from Florida, New Jersey, New York and Louisiana to solve it.

There is certainly no need for Canada to lose its independence over this though.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/

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Mr. Jaimie Bailley........ I have a question on basic physics that I believe you can turn
into a mission in life.

In my part of Nova Scotia, Guysborough County near Sherbrooke, the difference from
low tide to high tide isn't much more than one meter.

As you know extremely well........ in parts of your riding the difference from low tide to high tide is around FIFTEEN
meters.

My question is.......... if a significant amount of cracking and sliding of ice on the West Antarctic
Ice Sheet were to occur...... and if average ocean levels were to rise by one meter...... would the
difference along part of the Bay of Fundy continue to have a FACTOR OF 15 X?

Would a one meter rise in average ocean levels translate into another fifteen meters added to high tide
due to the funneling effect that the Bay of Fundy has on the tidal waters as it comes in???????

I don't know the answer to this question.

I am hoping that there is some other factor that would lessen the
multiplier effect on high tides in parts of your riding........... but the
question needs to be asked...... because my online friend Mr. Carl Cantrell
gave me an alternative theory on how to address climate stabilization that
has the side benefit of also directly addressing the threat of rising ocean levels.

Obviously every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the
water table of Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Tunisia, California, Saudi Arabia, Australia or any
other nation with lots of desert is good news for people whose homes are along the Bay of Fundy.

www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/
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(on to page 3 of that discussion):
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/page-3

AboveAlpha said: ↑

Members here can argue against GW all they want but there is ONE INDISPUTABLE FACT!!

That being that due to overall higher global temps. Polar and Greenland Glacier Ice Melt is causing the worlds oceans or sea levels to RISE AT AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE!!

Coastal U.S. Cities such as Boston, NY, Miami...etc.....are spending BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to combat rising ocean sea levels by building everything from coastal breakwaters and damns and dikes to building Multi-Billion Dollar Ocean Water Pumping Stations like in NY and Miami as sea levels are so high RIGHT NOW that even a small or moderate storm water surges are COMPLETELY FLOODING the streets of such cities and flooding the street drainage and sewer systems thus these massive pumping stations are necessary.

So members can argue all they want but what is HAPPENING NOW cannot be denied!!

AA
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jgoins · Sep 18, 2017

DennisTate said: ↑

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!
(thread created April 13, 2013)

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...w-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.298013/

Secondly I would like to express my guilt/shame over the fact that my ancestors were gullible and obviously we bought into stories regarding the cause of the American Revolutionary War that were exaggerated and in many cases outright lies!

The History of Banking Control in the United States

http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty49.htm
Alain Pilote:
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You do not owe us an apology for what happened in the distant past just like white Americans do not own black Americans any apologies for our ancestors actions.

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

I am a Theist who believes that Rabbi Judah ben Samuel was onto something extremely important to predict that 1917, 1967 and 2017 would be Jubilee Years.

I have the powerful feeling that we are about to witness one of the greatest economic miracles in the history of the world as humanity is somehow inspired to look at the problems in our central banking policies more objectively.

We kind of have to.....

......the U.S. Treasury Satellite Currency location Detection Systems show about $4.3 TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS out there in the world floating around as FREE FLOATING CURRENCY when the U.S. Treasury ITSELF is LYING saying that there is only a bit over $2 Trillion out there free floating but NO!!! Those of us in the LOOP are well aware the exact total is closer to $4.3 Trillion." .......(AboveAlpha)
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A gifted Christian was given a dream about a hurricane of money back in 2011..... I do not believe that the USA Dollar is going to be devalued but........ some pretty wise decisions will have to be made by President Trump and his team in order to prevent this from happening.

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

jgoins said: ↑

You do not owe us an apology for what happened in the distant past just like white Americans do not own black Americans any apologies for our ancestors actions.
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Our Prime Minister Stephen Harper publicly apologized to Canada's First Nations Communities for the Residential Schools system.

His apology was well received and was helpful in many important ways.

https://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1100100015644/1100100015649

Prime Minister Harper offers full apology on behalf of Canadians for the Indian Residential Schools system
11 June 2008
Ottawa, Ontario

The treatment of children in Indian Residential Schools is a sad chapter in our history.

For more than a century, Indian Residential Schools separated over 150,000 Aboriginal children from their families and communities. In the 1870's, the federal government, partly in order to meet its obligation to educate Aboriginal children, began to play a role in the development and administration of these schools. Two primary objectives of the Residential Schools system were to remove and isolate children from the influence of their homes, families, traditions and cultures, and to assimilate them into the dominant culture. These objectives were based on the assumption Aboriginal cultures and spiritual beliefs were inferior and unequal. Indeed, some sought, as it was infamously said, "to kill the Indian in the child". Today, we recognize that this policy of assimilation was wrong, has caused great harm, and has no place in our country.
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JakeStarkey · Sep 18, 2017

jgoins said: ↑

You do not owe us an apology for what happened in the distant past just like white Americans do not own black Americans any apologies for our ancestors actions.
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fallacy of false equivalency

DennisTate · Sep 18, 2017

I have to admit that my motivation at this time to generate discussion about this is because I take the following theory seriously. I believe that President Donald J. Trump will respond wisely to this............. but it will make it easier for him and his team if Americans and Canadians are more well informed because the best answer that I can think of so far............. will scare many people who still belong to the church that I was in until 1991.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-early-as-2016.397835/page-8#post-1067354662

jrr777 said: ↑

Former American Ambassador Dr. William H. Mount, has his own youtube channel (which is his name), and he is warning the American people that within the next 60 days, every nation will have dropped the American dollar. All those dollars, will find their way back here.

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It seems to me that all that has to be done to prevent the USA Dollar from being devalued is to delay their arrival back in America... by months and in some cases years.... until the USA economy is ready to accept them in a productive manner........ such as a significant increase in real estate values in rural areas of America.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-fed-policy-pay-off-usa-national-debt.489825/

Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.

Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and

nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it

all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by

people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of

becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.

Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to

all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
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and... with the assistance of the nation of Israel......
we can theoretically raise up a "Beast" that will have a very Cyrus the Great / Medo - Persian flavour... where spirituality will receive greater respect than has been the case over these past decades.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tia-israel-and-jordan.506627/#post-1067598747

DennisTate said: ↑

Mr. Jaimie Baillie, if you were to do an internet search you will find that very few people are using a particular phrase publicly.

Is a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems even possible?

You will find that the name DennisTate comes up often with the results for any
search for "Unified Theory of Modern World Problems."

Each time that I get into this it seems to get a little easier to explain so essentially:

1. I am advocating large scale desalination of ocean water in many nations that will result in a huge increase in food production on land that is now unproductive.

2. I am advocating a deliberate LOWERING OF OCEAN LEVELS by thirty centimeters, one foot, in order to give coastal communities a buffer zone for that probable eventual time where rapid cracking and sliding of ice on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or the land based Greenland Ice Pack probably occurs. (If an earthquake or tsunami were to hit the West Antarctic Ice Sheet the results would probably be scary indeed)!

3. I am advocating adding eighty or more trace minerals to fertilizer which several physicians and researchers claim can greatly reduce the incidence of many of our major medical conditions that cause our deaths. I want to see food, to a degree, turned into "medicine."

4. I am advocating a revamping of Canadian central banking policies to maximize productivity.......... and place a higher value on human life.

5. The foundation for this new look at central banking policy should be a revolt against the simplistic, ignorant, intellectually dishonest theories put forward by rather dogmatic Atheists such as Richard Dawkins Ph. D. (Since education is a responsibility of provincial governments as Leader of the Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative Party you are in a perfect position to get into this controversial subject).

Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?

(This idea is relevant to central banking policy because.......IF....
it is true that intelligence first came into existence in a fundamental
form of energy implied by String Theory and Energy from Quantum Vacuum
THEN..... that life form would get extremely emotionally involved in the creation
after planning and choreographing an essentially infinite number of Big Bang type
events.

Near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was shown a rather Theistic Cyclic Model of
the Universe which contrasts with the Atheistic Cyclic Model explained in chapter 13 of
"Stephen Hawking's Universe."

Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...onal-being-in-the-universe-multiverse.368603/
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Max Rockatansky · Sep 18, 2017

jgoins said: ↑

You do not owe us an apology for what happened in the distant past just like white Americans do not own black Americans any apologies for our ancestors actions.
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Agreed. At what point do the children stop having to pay for the sins of their fathers? Does Britain owe us an apology for their atrocities and brutalities against American colonialists? It was the its and Dutch who started the slave trade. Shouldn't they apologize to everyone for it? Let's not forget those frickin' Eye-talians for running roughshod all over Europe back in the day!

JakeStarkey · Sep 18, 2017

Max Rockatansky said: ↑

Agreed. At what point do the children stop having to pay for the sins of their fathers? Does Britain owe us an apology for their atrocities and brutalities against American colonialists? It was the its and Dutch who started the slave trade. Shouldn't they apologize to everyone for it? Let's not forget those frickin' Eye-talians for running roughshod all over Europe back in the day!
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Fallacies of false equivalency and confirmation bias.

Max Rockatansky · Sep 18, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

Fallacies of false equivalency and confirmation bias.
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LOL You post those like you know what they mean. Okay, now go ahead and explain exactly why you believe it's "Fallacies of false equivalency and confirmation bias" or just let it go and everyone will know you just sling those words against ideas you dislike.

JakeStarkey · Sep 18, 2017

Max Rockatansky said: ↑

LOL You post those like you know what they mean. Okay, now go ahead and explain exactly why you believe it's "Fallacies of false equivalency and confirmation bias" or just let it go and everyone will know you just sling those words against ideas you dislike.
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I do, and you clearly don't. Now explain, since you made the claim, why they are not. You can't. Your logic is fakery, Max, and you know it.

Your claim of affirmation. Get to it.

Max Rockatansky · Sep 18, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

I do, and you clearly don't. Now explain, since you made the claim, why they are not. You can't. Your logic is fakery, Max, and you know it.

Your claim of affirmation. Get to it.
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Translation: You're right again, Max!

No worries, Jake.

JakeStarkey · Sep 18, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑
I do, and you clearly don't. Now explain, since you made the claim, why they are not. You can't. Your logic is fakery, Max, and you know it.

Your claim of affirmation. Get to it.

Max Rockatansky said: ↑

Translation: You're right again, Max!

No worries, Jake.
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Meaning Max cannot factually support his affirmation. You are right again, Jake.

Max Rockatansky · Sep 18, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

JakeStarkey said: ↑
I do, and you clearly don't. Now explain, since you made the claim, why they are not. You can't. Your logic is fakery, Max, and you know it.

Your claim of affirmation. Get to it.
Meaning Max cannot factually support his affirmation. You are right again, Jake.
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You are free to think as you please, sir. It should be obvious to all that all you've done is make a claim of "false equivalency" and when asked to prove it, you turned to making it about me.

The fact remains it is wrong to make the younger generations pay for the sins of their ancestors. Spin it however you like, it's still wrong.

DennisTate · Sep 19, 2017

Max Rockatansky said: ↑

Agreed. At what point do the children stop having to pay for the sins of their fathers? Does Britain owe us an apology for their atrocities and brutalities against American colonialists? It was the its and Dutch who started the slave trade. Shouldn't they apologize to everyone for it? Let's not forget those frickin' Eye-talians for running roughshod all over Europe back in the day!
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On one level it seems that an intelligence that is beyond our comprehension has
arranged a type of justice in the universe / Multiverse that is indeed better than
any apologies but............... perhaps sincere apologies can decrease something that
a Buddhist, Hindu, Chassidic Jew or Gnostic Christian might term......"negative karma?"

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-been-of-another-race-in-a-past-life.512685/

Could you have been of another race in a past life?

DennisTate · Sep 19, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

I do, and you clearly don't. Now explain, since you made the claim, why they are not. You can't. Your logic is fakery, Max, and you know it.

Your claim of affirmation. Get to it.
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In Max's defence .... in another discussion he termed himself a Gnostic Christian,
that is one valid term for what I am as well... .so he knows fully what I mean by my reply in post #22, it
is just that he disagrees with it and believes it is better if people groups who have suffered
persecution in the past and been the brunt of unfair treatment..... just get over it and move on.

There is indeed a lot to be said for that approach.

But considering that all money at this time is created as a "debt" one of our options
now is to create a debt.... .in such a way that we avoid the mathematical problem of
un-repayable debt levels that are created by compound interest over time.

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm

In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.
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Some people feel that our artistic freedom.......
may be one of our last freedom's to be lost at this time.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-4

JakeStarkey · Sep 19, 2017

A gnostic Christian sovereign citizen. Never met one before. Glad to meet you, Dennis Tate!

jgoins · Sep 19, 2017

JakeStarkey said: ↑

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It is equivalent in that it is apologizing for actions of our ancestors.

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