Are forced taxes theft.

You are not free if by birth you automatically inherit obligations over which you have no control.

 

There is no country in the entire world that agrees with you.

Did you ever wonder why?

 

Nonsense. You have perfect control. The obligations only apply if you choose to remain. Leave, and you have no further obligations.

 

Taxes are in the Constitution, you no like paying taxes you can always leave.

 

And I should be surprised that governments are generally run by power seeking jackasses that believe they have the right to do whatever they wish with your property regardless of your wishes to the contrary?

 

And yet when the rich do choose to leave you curse them,,,

 

I do?

 

Yes, there are jackasses in Washington D.C.

But, WE elected them. WE read their policy statements (or noticed that Trump had no policy statements) and then we cast our ballots.

As to your last sentence, yes, I do believe there are valid reasons for government forcing the sale of land. And, I'd bet that the authority to do that has been abused. I'd point out that these issues do go to court for review. So, when we put big money in just about every seat of the SCOTUS, you can bet your bottom dollar they will support pretty much every last millionaire before they care about you.

 

But they are far more likely to support government.. Note the underlying justification for those decision gad nothing to do with the guy wanting to build the mall and everything to do with the local government trying to increase it's tax base. The three know votes as I recall were Scalia, Thomas, And whoever it was Roberts replaced.

 

There are numerous cases of challenges to eminent domain laws.

I can't really respond to any one of these without knowing which one. I know there have been some seriously bad decisions.

Any individual who ever hoped to be able to rely on Scalia for defense of personal property rights must have been just plain stupid. And, Thomas (alias Long Dong Silver from confirmation testimony) was his lap dog.

 

Yes, taxation is theft via coercion.

A single person does not have the right to take the fruits of my labor without my permission. If a single person does not have this right, then someone please tell me how "democracy" confers this right to a group?

Let's say I am part of said democracy. I vote against taking my money from me, but the 99 people vote to take it? How is that right transferred to the others?

What if I choose NOT to be part of this "democracy". What gives them the right to the fruit of my labor, including my land?

It will be said that "taxes are the cost of a civilized society" if it hasn't already been said. The Mayans believed that human sacrifice was also the cost of a civilized society, yet neither can be proven.

Tacit consent is an illusion used by rulers to convince the masses of their benevolence. It is no different than the "Divine Right of Kings" that justified previous government types in that regard. Neither has substance. Thus, popular soverignty is also a myth and it doesn't matter if it is Feudalism, Dictatorship or Demovracy. Only individual soverignty matters, and through teaching this it will be the only way we will actually learn to respect each other's right to property, which is the fountain from where all valid rights spring.

 

By definition, taxes are not theft unless the law in a jurisdiction makes them so.

But I suspect OP is appealing to a philosophical as opposed to strict statutory definition of "theft."

IMO taxes are never theft when collected no matter how high... so long as due process of collection applies to all. The term simply doesn't apply. However when tax receipts are SPENT on illicit, non enumerated powers that are/were just "assumed" by government and then rubberstamped by a complicit judiciary, that is unjust taxation.

We crossed the line of unjust taxation in the U.S. decades ago at both state and federal levels.

 

There is and has been no civilization that didn't include taxation.

To suggest you are immune from our taxes is to say that you are NOT a citizen and are here as a guest on temporary basis only.

 

In addition:
Taxation is theft
War is Mass Murder
Conscription is Slavery

Any of these things done by an individual or group in society would hold true however any of these things done by the state is "justified" and "lawful".

 

Yes...Democracies, Mass Murdering Dictatorships and Kings and Emperors have all been civilizations that have taxed. That is their common evil and it's slavish citizens have all trumpeted "That is the cost to live in a civil society! Derp, derp! You are not immume to the taxes because...uhm...(insert faulty logic here).".

To say that it has never been done is not to say it can never BE done.

If I am to say that I am not a citizen, how does that disqualify to my right of the fruits of my labors, including my land?

No one has answered that, given my previous post in full.

 

On what basis do you call it “your” land?

 

Without taxation we will have anarchy and the destruction of modern civilization. Taxation is the rent we pay to live in a society where people have come together to support the common good. If you don't want to pay American taxes then leave.

 

On the basis that through the fruits of my labor I earned enough wealth to exchange with the previous owner in contract negotiations for them to cede ownership to me.

All valid rights are property rights.

 

You live where you live, freely. You consent.

 

Taxes are not theft. Not all taxes are fair, which is a relative term in itself. Taxes are necessary to maintain a functioning society. At some point, taxes become overbearing, which is another relative term. Abuse of taxation is usually done on the government spending side. Instead of being a means to keep necessary government services going, taxes become a means to redistribute wealth. This is where I have a problem with it. People work hard to make money and provide for their families and their standard of living. Why should hard working people be forced to pay for lazy able bodied people to have kids to collect more of these tax dollars? The lazy ruin it for the disabled and for the hard working. Let them work, beg, or starve.

The well dressed lady I saw buying $400 worth of steaks with welfare and loading it into her new Suburban needs an attitude adjustment.

 

At a minimum, property taxes.

 

Does anyone have a consent form for legal theft? I have never signed one without duress.

How about a society where taxes are voluntary?

 

Still beating that dead horse, eh???

I suppose that assessing fines for traffic violations is theft, also???

I challenge you to name even ONE nation that does not collect taxes. . . . Are you that ENTITLED that you deserve all the benefits of infrastructure and services that our society has to offer FREE OF CHARGE???

Apparently you prefer the unlimited freedom of anarchy.

 

Devil's advocate: If I choose to homestead on my owned land and grow my own food and livestock and provide my own water and septic system and never leave my land and make no money, why should my land be subject to confiscation? How do the Indians and the Amish get away with it? They even make money by selling goods and opening casinos.

 

The problem here is you and I are arguing with dogs that stay on the leash of the master called government. Dog are not really able to think or act by themselves. They would run to a human master rather then fend for themselves. The are self made slaves. They don't even believe in Locke's Life, Liberty, Property. They are all socialist/communist who lack the ability to pursue REAL freedom.