Army officer sues Virginia police over violent traffic stop

I would amend this to say that the stop wasn't unwarranted. He did have illegal tint and an obscured license tag.

What was unwarranted was the method these officers employed to effect the stop. Completely unnecessary to approach this car with weapons drawn. Completely unnecessary to order the victim out of the vehicle. Completely unnecessary to pepper spray him, beat him, cuff him and threaten him with being tazed or shot. Completely unnecessary to tell him he "should be afraid" to comply with their contradictory and unreasonable orders.

I completely agree with your last two sentences. These are supposed to be peace officers and public servants. They were neither, on this night.

 

And if you act like a prison guard and treat citizens as though they are prisoners, the system will protect you.

The stop was unnecessary and inappropriate.

 

Indeed you would probably pull your gun on a child.

 

If we have the right to know why we are being stopped and right to not have our lives threatened, authorize us to shoot on sight any Democrat party supported BLM/terrorist that stands in front of people's cars...

 

Hands up, don't shoot...

 

I realize this alludes you but have you ever thought of just acting like an adult? problem solved

 

Just on the overgrown kind. You know, the ones who have their temper tantrums instead of acting like an adult.

 

So I was going 120 mph, they reduced it to 75mph in 55, all I had to do was be polite and do what they said. There are way too many reasons for a cop to draw his weapon, and ask the driver...out of the car, for there to be any blanket they shouldn't do it, or for someone to refuse to comply. They also had to force him down, because you can see clearly in the video he was resisting being handcuffed, and that goes to his motive of resisting arrest before that.

 

The Sergeant Major of the US Army disagrees with your assessment of how the LT behaved, saying "...He represented himself and our Army well through his calm, professional response to the situation – I’m very proud of him."

On the other hand, the officers whose actions you are defending have been fired, and their department sued for civil rights violations.

I think these two truths should shed light on the position you, pretty much alone in the world, are taking on this topic. A rational person would be re-evaluating his position if he were you.

 

Had he acted like an adult and simply stepped out of the car, you wouldn't be here talking about it. Would you.

 

"Resisting arrest" is always a secondary charge. They must have a valid reason to arrest you, before you can resist arrest. In this case, no charges were filed.

 

The Sergeant Major of the US Army says he acted admirably. Only YOU are saying otherwise.

 

Only me huh. Narrow minded much. Maybe you should follow the Sergeant Majors advice and refuse to comply at every traffic stop. Let us all know how it works out for ya.

 

He didn't refuse to comply, he wanted to know for what he is complying. The police approached guns drawn shouted rather threatening things and he has absolutely no idea why. He is immediately, and says as much, afraid to put his hands down and while being told he may die and he still has no idea why. Had the officer simply approached and informed him of his missing plates then he could have pointed out the temp plate posted on the rear window end of story. Instead he's told that he's going to die brutally.

Once his hands were up through the window he was screwed, leave them up get pepper sprayed, take them down and get shot by wild police officer. Neither a good option. And he'd committed no crime. Not even a traffic violation and unlike the police officer he had been polite.

 

Perhaps every window tint violation should include threat of deadly force, beating, pepper spray, and contradictory orders that cannot be complied with. The facts of this case are contrary to your position; the officers involved were fired for their incompetence, the department will lose it's civil rights case, and the highest ranking enlisted man in the US Army is PUBLICLY praising the behavior of the victim of this tyranny.

 

Yet you can't comprehend the obvious, can you. Doesn't matter what the aftermath is, the point is he refused to comply, got gassed, and thrown on the concrete vs he simply steps out of the vehicle and complies.

Only a child minded idiot fights with cops of a felony stop with guns drawn. But he was in the right, he's dead but he was right. You don't refuse to comply. You comply then take it up with the judge if you were treated inappropriately.

But you make sure you tell your kids to refuse to comply on felony stops. You can always claim how they were in the right while you bury them.

 

Do you, as an adult, pull down your hands to reach inside the vehicle to release your seat belt, while someone with a gun pointed at your head is screaming obscene things at you and you have absolutely no idea why? I'm pretty sure who I believed acted like an adult.

 

He was told to exit the vehicle and he refused which got him gassed and thrown on the concrete. Next time I bet he simply acts like an adult and exits the car.

 

I must have missed it. Where are all these civilians being killed on felony stops while removing their seat belts as ordered?

 

He literally said he was afraid to put his hands down. Can't blame him. Had the cop simply said why he was stopped rather than his obscenities none of this would have been an issue.

 

I would like you to demonstrate exactly how you would step out of a vehicle your are seat-belted into, at gunpoint, under threat of death, without using your hands. I would like you to explain how your decision-making process would be affected when a gun-pointing cop tells you that you "should be afraid" to comply with his commands.

The facts in this case are contrary to your position.

 

Yet thousands upon thousands of felony stops are made without incidence. Go figure

 

Yet thousands upon thousands of felony stops are made without incidence. Go figure

 

I believe this guy was non compliant on purpose to get money from a lawsuit. They told him so many times to get out of the car and on the ground and he finally gets out and just stands there while they scream at him to get down. He knew they were not going to shoot him for just standing there. He was purposely trying to get them to be rough with him so he could make money off it.

 

Do try and keep in mind that this was not a felony stop but a stupid mistake then escalated by the cop.