Ban all guns

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  1. KSigMason

    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    LiberalActivist, you can have my guns when you pull them from my dead lifeless body. Good luck with that by the way.
     
  2. yardmeat

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    So he thinks guns are magic and only prevent crimes in the hands of police?
     
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    In the words of a Great Person.

    "IF GUNS KILL PEOPLE, MINE ARE DEFECTIVE".
    Uncle Ted Nugent​
     
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    Ian, are you suggesting that firearms are never used to prevent rape or murder, or are you just saying on the whole that they do not have a large impact on rape and murder rates?
     
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    They do have a significant negative effect on murder rates
     
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    You have mistaken a relativist fallacy for logical proof. It's a little like saying that 'there was a guy that got shot and killed, so we must ban guns'. Does one REALLY have anything to do with the other?

    Are you capable of understanding this?


    -Danct-
     
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    Quite a straw man you guys are building there in your love-fest. What are you going to do with it now?
     
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    No he only wants the police and military to have guns
    he hates the bill of rights and constitution
     
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    very well said bu trying to educate a liberal is almost impossible
     
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    On any given day when out shopping or what ever, does any body realize how many people they passed by or talked to that were carrying a (gun)weapon? You would be surprised how many that could be depending on the area you live in. You will never know and they will never tell. It is not something you advertise...at times, close family members don't even.

    What's that saying? "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away"

    http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm

    * Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, this suburb of Atlanta passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.16
    * Ten years later (1991), the residential burglary rate in Kennesaw was still 72% lower than it had been in 1981, before the law was passed.17
    * Nationwide. Statistical comparisons with other countries show that burglars in the United States are far less apt to enter an occupied home than their foreign counterparts who live in countries where fewer civilians own firearms. Consider the following rates showing how often a homeowner is present when a burglar strikes:
    * Homeowner occupancy rate in the gun control countries of Great Britain, Canada and Netherlands: 45% (average of the three countries); and,
    * Homeowner occupancy rate in the United States: 12.7%.18
    Rapes averted when women carry or use firearms for protection
    * Orlando, FL. In 1966-67, the media highly publicized a safety course which taught Orlando women how to use guns. The result: Orlando's rape rate dropped 88% in 1967, whereas the rape rate remained constant in the rest of Florida and the nation.19
    * Nationwide. In 1979, the Carter Justice Department found that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32% were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of the attempted rapes were actually successful.20
    Justice Department study:
    * 3/5 of felons polled agreed that "a criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun."21
    * 74% of felons polled agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime."22
    * 57% of felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."23

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    A straw man would involve a conclusion, or at least a statement. I asked a question. What I do with it depends on the answer he provides.
     
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    If guns cause violence then pencils are the cause of misspelled words and the fork causes obesity. An inanimate object requires human interaction. It's the person, nit the gun which is violent and causes the violence to ensue.
     
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    Still trying to find out why my guns aren't causing any violence yet. I've had them for over a decade and they still haven't caused any violence. Maybe I should have them looked at?
     
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    The latter.
     
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    Mine too, strange they get about 50-75 rounds shot through them per month, but they never attempt to rob or murder anyone even during cleaning afterwards.
     
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    Not sure why you guys are responding to imaginary posts. No one has suggested a gun is an animate object.
     
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    Here are those great simple words again, from a great guy.

    "If guns kill people, mine are defected".

    Ted Nugent​
     
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    when they say guns kill people, that is exactly what they are implying.
     
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    Good, that's at least a much more reasonable claim. So we know that firearms can me used and are used in self defense. What evidence would you accept as proof that they have a net negative influence on crimes like rape and murder (and can we add theft to that list too?)? We know that violent crime rates went up in England after guns were largely banned, and that crime rates in Texas went down after concealed carry measures were implemented

    But so what if they don't have a net negative impact of violence? Do we need to show that free speech has a net positive influence on society in order to claim a right to it?.
     
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    Just like no one responds too folk from down under. Their just an animate object.
     
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    You see? I dont even have to make you guys look stupid, you do it all by yourself. How about some of your "stories" Dixie boy.
     
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    It must really agrivate you, burns you from the inside out. It makes you boil with hate and envie.

    That we Good Old Folk in the states can own any type of firearm we want.

    Oh well....You simple mind jackasses, gave up your rights, and total freedom to your listless socialist goverment.

    So keep on sucking air qualla.
     
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    Au contraire my special friend, as I previously pointed out guns are not banned in Australia. I own one myself, gun laws here only help restrict special people like yourself from owning one. Doesnt burn me up at all, I actually get a warm and fuzzy about it.
     
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    Australian rule allows for a few select types if firearms to be owned by it's deprived civilization.

    Revolvers
    Bolt Action Rifles
    Lever Action Rifles
    Shot Guns (Pump Action Only)

    And the golder rule is that only one firearm per household.
    Yah.....That's awesome stuff down under.

    Basically the Australian rule is saying. Australian's simply cannot be trusted with anything larger.
     
  25. ian

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    Yep, awsome stuff downunder. If you feel inadequate and feel you need something a bit larger then thats your own personal issue Tiny. Myself, I feel perfectly adequate.
     
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