Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

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  1. Bluesguy

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    If I witness something and give testimony to it it is NOT hearsay, go educate yourself on the law. Hearsay is if YOU tell me you saw something and I try to testify in court what YOU told me not what I personally witnessed. These affidavits are personally witnessed events.
     
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    Why do you keep diverting to Trump when I am not discussing Trump?
     
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    Really? Grandma/eggs. Have you seen all those affidavits?
     
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    The fraud is much more sophisticated than just finding it or not finding it. It's like having your computer hacked, and all of a sudden you've had a bunch of your files corrupted by some foreign entity. At that point in time, you're basically SOL.

    So it seems to me that they're looking at all the wrong places. Instead of looking at mail-in-ballots or voting irregularities, they need to be looking at the cybercrime that orchestrated this fiasco, and that cybercrime goes by the name of Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, and also the people who allowed these companies access to our American voting system in the first place.

    What they did was to hack our voting system with their own hardware and software, which made it possible for the end-user to flip one candidate's votes to the other candidate, by however many votes they needed to assure that their preferred candidate won, and the other lost.

    So to that end, I will never consider Biden to be a duly elected president, but instead the beneficiary of the most extensive voter fraud organization in American history.

     
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    Have I read them all? No but yes I have seen them, they were being displayed last night. Are you claiming they don't exist what do you have to back that up? They exist and must be dealt with. But it's not your concern you know are you saying candidates in elections in your country have no recourse for reports of irregularities and they are just ignored?
     
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    Trump has no credibility. Trump told republican poll watchers way before the election even happened that the Democrats were "thieving" "robbing" and "stealing" the election without a shred of evidence. In short he prompted them to look for Democrats cheating the election whether proof existed or not.
    https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/trumps-call-for-an-army-of-poll-watchers-is-fall-flat-so-far/
    "At a September campaign rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the president encouraged his audience to be poll watchers. “Watch all the thieving and stealing and robbing they do," he said. “Because this is important."
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    No president in history has ever claimed he won the presidential election before all the ballots were counted

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-frankly-we-did-win-this-election/ar-BB1aFFWo
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    "Trump falsely claims he won the 2020 presidential election: 'Frankly, we did win this election'
     
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    How many did you actually read?
     
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    Yup.

    I will never consider Biden the duly elected President, it was a big cyercrime scam brought on Dominion.

    Clearly, Bat Boy Won the Election.

    Goshdarn, Dominion.
    Dadburn, Smartmatic.

    Tay Tay be Hella Sad.

    Bat Boy Really Won. :flagus:
     
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    Might as well ditch it. Forget it, Trump -- the Swamp won....

    Radical Democrats fought you like mad dogs from the moment Hillary lost in 2016. Just hand them the 'keys' to all the government crap before noon on January 20th and go back to what you're most effective at, and make a few more billions!

    After all, LIVING WELL IS THE BEST REVENGE!

    [​IMG]. Get seven RR Phantoms, in different colors, one for each day of the week! :twisted:
     
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    Yes. I keep seeing this conspiracy theory promoted. But I keep not seeing lawyers with the Trump Campaign actually filing lawsuits alleging this. I wonder why that might be the case.

    If they had evidence this took place, they can bring it forth. But given that they aren't, it speaks to their own lack of credibility. The only story here is the complete undermining of democracy taking place by an incumbent that is so delusional he has convinced himself that the only way he could possibly lose an election is if the other guy cheated. Just as he has convinced himself that the only way he could have lost the popular vote in 2016 was for some similar mass voter fraud to have taken place.
     
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    Democratic senators warned of potential 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines prior to 2020 election

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...g-machines-prior-to-2020-election/ar-BB1aZAYf

    A Fox News video on the subject below:

     
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    Another dishonest article. The letter was a general letter requesting information on 3 voting systems. It was concerns about using old equip. But hey, the article is from Washington Examiner!
     
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    An article that used 3 Democrat Senators as their source. Are you suggesting that those 3 Senators are dishonest?
     
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    Did you even bother to read the letter written by the senators??
     
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    Well, you obviously didn't, or if you did, you didn't understand it's implications. Neither of which makes your comments on the matter worthwhile to anyone.
     
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    LOL The same letter was sent to 3 different companies requesting company information. You did not know that, did you? No where did the letter warn of potential vote switching by Dominion! The headline "Democratic senators warned of potential 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines prior to 2020 election" you posted was a lie that you hoped no one would bother to check
     
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    If nowhere did the letter warn of Dominion and potential vote switching, why did the letter reference both Dominion and vote switching? Is it because you're the one fabricating the lies, and misrepresenting the truth? It certainly seems so to me. In fact, one would really have to have their head in the sand to think otherwise.
     
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    The author of the article - who leans distinctly right - completely misrepresents their letter.

    The letter is to three private equity firms who own or control (among many other things) the three voting system companies operating in the US.

    It was sent because of the concern that private equity firms often maximum return on investment by through "drastic cost-cutting measures". And, when it comes to voting systems, this might mean that voting systems aren't maintained, updated, developed, etc. as they should be, creating potential problems in "critical" election infrastructure.
     
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    You either didn't read the letter, or you are purposely ignoring its references to Dominion and vote switching, both of which would speak poorly of you.
     
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    Read the letters, plural! There are THREE identical letters, one to each company. You clearly have not read the letters but blindly believed what the Washington Examiner told you.
     
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    It speaks poorly of you, I'm afraid, as clearly you haven't read the letter. Here are all the references to Dominion. Note (in addition to their paucity) that the "vote switching" was a calibration issue experienced by voters at the touchscreens - not registering their vote correctly - and therefore noticed and rectified rightaway. And it was in South Carolina - they use ES&S machines.

    TO: H.I.G Capital, LLC
    ...Today, three large vendors-Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCiviccollectively provide voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States...

    TO: McCarthy Group, LLC
    ...Today, three large vendors-Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCiviccollectively provide voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States...

    TO: Staple Street Capital Group, LLC
    We are writing to request information regarding Staple Street Capital Group, LLC's (Staple Street) investment in Dominion Voting Systems (Dominion) one of three election technology vendors responsible for developing, manufacturing and maintaining the vast majority of voting machines and software in the United States, and to request information about your firm's structure and finances as it relates to this company...

    … Today, three large vendors-Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCiviccollectively provide voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States...

    ...Staple Street reportedly owns or has had investments in Dominion, a major election technology vendor...
     
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    In case you haven't figured it out yet, reading one of 3 identical letters is the same as reading all three of them. Now if you were a fair and honest fellow, which of course you're not, you would have posted this in its entirety:

    In 2018 alone "voters in South Carolina [were] reporting machines that switched their votes after they'd inputted them, scanners [were] rejecting paper ballots in Missouri, and busted machines [were] causing long lines in Indiana."14 In addition, researchers recently uncovered previously undisclosed vulnerabilities in "nearly three dozen backend election systems in 10 states."15 And, just this year, after the Democratic candidate's electronic tally showed he received an improbable 164 votes out of 55,000 cast in a Pennsylvania state judicial election in 2019, the county's Republican Chairwoman said, " [ n ]othing went right on Election Day. Everything went wrong. That's a problem."16 These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.
    But because you didn't post it, we know there is no "truth or justice" in your remarks; just misrepresentations.
     
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    LOL The machines used in South Carolina were manufactured by Election Systems & Software. Try and get something right.
     
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    Aa Affidavit is someone swearing under penalty of law that what they are saying is true. It does not require any evidence.

    Again, these are proving out to be hearsay. Literally every lawsuit Trump has filed has been dismissed, or dropped by them when they could not produce any evidence to back up the "affidavit".

    This is only starting back up because Rudy wants 5 more minutes of fame. There has not been ONE lawsuit by Trump that has backed up with any real evidence. If they had the evidence they would still be live lawsuits, and would not have been dismissed, as most of them have, or dropped by the Trump admin because they knew they were untenable in a court. This entire charade has been to do nothing more than sew discord, placate the cult members, and to place doubt in the electoral system. Lets not forget that in 2016 Trump claimed it was all rigged, and the "votes were bad" until he won the race, then it somehow became the sacred oath of the system to install him as president.

    The cult of Trump is being used, and they are drinking the kool-aid by the gallon.
     
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