Bayer-Monsanto lose next Roundup Trial - the bad side of capitalism!

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  1. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Round Up ready seeds do not produce crops that produce sterile seed! When you bag a bag of Soybeans that are Round Up ready you have to sign a Technology agreement that states you will not brown bag your crop (take previous years seed clean it then plant it next year). It is a mute point for corn because nobody plants field corn (corn grow is a row and harvested for grain) they plant hybrid corn (corn planted in row with one row being the male and multiple rows being the female. Then the female corn is detasseled leaving only the male row to pollinate the females. After pollination the male row is then destroyed leaving only the female rows to be harvested.) The proof of this is quite simple next time your are in the country you will see corn in bean fields at the beginning of the year and a couple of weeks after harvesting bean tours will see soybeans that could not be harvested growing after it rains. Now I am sure you feel you are much smarter then me feel free to prove me wrong.
     
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    GMOs are a big part of why the world isnt starving today. Wholly natural crops take too long to harvest and the quality of the harvest is lower.
     
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    Friends in government that turn a blind eye?
    That's captalism's fault?
    Not
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's just say the harvest without GMO's are not as profitable for the corporations. If we didn't want people to starve we wouldn't be sanctioning countries.

    Money, money, money money -



     
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    Sanctions have nothing to do with it. The world cannot grow or raise enough food for the current population without GMO.
     
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    At least it is ... because in general this is called corruption.
    Of course, corruption exists in both ... capitalism and socialism ... but more extensive corruption with public and economic damage is present in capitalism like a cancer. Where money starts to govern the world, money also corrupts political leaders. Even anti-communist economists in the US say that corruption is a dangerous lubricant in the economy ... for example, in tenders!
    I also know that this will of course strikes, as well as the socialism in the end said ... but the point is another:

    If there was corruption in the acquisition of Monsanto by Bayer AG ... and I do not want to exclude that, because there is a lot of evidence to support it ... then it was corruption in the economy, where politics was not corrupt, but the board of Management of Bayer.
     
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    That does not justify GMO rise and usage in countries like the US or the majority of European ones, which are self-sufficient in food from agriculture without resorting to GMO's.
     
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    Socialism lives off the profits of capitalism.

    Socialism creates nothing.
     
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    Monsanto is evil. Bayer isn't much better. I couldn't be happier to see them both falling apart.
     
  10. Right is the way

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    How are they evil?
     
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    There is absolutely no scientific data which proves that Round Up causes cancer.


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/roundup-of-cancer-evidence-11557876010
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    Socialists believe that all corporations should be controlled by the government. Monsanto is not and is therefore evil.
     
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    Monsanto ..... the company that brought you DDT, PCBs, Agent Orange and now Round-up.

    It's a toxic hit parade. :skull: :rock_slayer: :skull:
     
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    I hope the Moderators move this thread to the Law & Justice section when this has run its course, because this is not about Capitalism.

    Those on the Left are all clamoring against Big evil corporations, wanting to pull them down, and support unjust verdicts to accomplish this.
     
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    The ban on ddt has resulted in ~ 30 million deaths. It was found by the EPA in 1972 to be non carcinogenic to humans. The WHO finally approved residual spraying of walls in 2006.

    Source - “Science and Public Policy” - Kellow - 2007. It’s a book.
     
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    If that was really true then that to me suggests we are already fast approaching the danger of overpopulation.
     
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    I agree with you but I have a couple of comments to make:

    1). The problem you speak of isn't because of Capitalism. Capitalist, Socialist, Communist, and religious-based governments are all susceptible to CORRUPTION.

    * George Bush Jr.'s Capitalism
    * Josef Stalin's Communism
    * Stefan Löfven's Socialism
    * King Salman bin Abdulaziz's Islamic government

    2). Leider, Germany is losing its credibility as an upright, quality-producing nation. In addition to the Monsanto scandal, Volkswagon recently had a devastating blow for lying about their emission control.

    We can't trust any product these days.

    Scheiße.jpeg
     
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    I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
     
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    Excessive exuberance or ambition?

    There are a few Dilbert strips that make fun of these toxic mergers & aquisitions.
    There's an inherent drive in corporate leadership to want to "grow".
    They'd much rather aquire a company and lose money than distribute out those profits to shareholders.
    The bigger the company is, the more important they are. They can justify higher salaries because revenue is higher and the percentage of top management salaries to expenses becomes lower.
     
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    The reason they were (are?) well-thought-of is the huge PR job they have been living off of, namely "saving the world from starvation" by increasing crop output. I am sure that any genetical manipulating company with so many researchers on the payroll ... they knew damned well it was dangerous. You can bet they have hoards of lawyers spinning the books in their favour and making gazillions of dollars every day while the world suffers and dies.
     
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    We have never approached overpopulation.
     
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    How can there not be enough food from non-GMO sources to feed the population then, but plenty of food for lots more population growth from GMO sources?

    Surely you don't think GMO is really 10 times more productive?

    (Edit: just realized responding to different poster)
     
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  23. Thingamabob

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    I refuse to believe that.
     
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    Good production has always kept up when fertilizer and water are available. GM crops require less fertilizer and water and are critical for third world countries. Unfortunately the EU morons have banned them causing economic harm to those countries which most need growth.
     
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    Not all farmland has lots of nearby water available.

    In fact human development has mostly taken over all the areas of the world with the most fertile farmland and good Summer rainfall. That's an irony, because good farmland fed populations and led to development, and eventually all that farmland was built on.

    Some crops require less water, like wheat. That's why the US can export so much of it.
     
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