Biden Could Be Forced To Testify In Trump Senate Impeachment Trial

if you claim Trump's children doing the same is just as wrong, not to mention the bush admin's SOS as well

I think Hillary was stupid to use personal email, think the Trump children were stupid to use personal email, this the Bush admins SOS was stupid to use personal email

I think it should be a crime.....

you can thank the republican Darrell Issa for allowing personal email use to this day

http://thedailybanter.com/2015/03/f...egulation-hillary-clinton-allegedly-violated/

"1) Did Clinton break any laws by using a private email account, exclusively or otherwise?

No. And we’ve known about her private email for a couple of years now after it was originally reported by Gawker. So, old news. Also, guess which lawmaker made sure personal email usage was permitted in the amendments to the Federal Records Act last year? Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA)."

 

Trump should have had to speak to Mueller , that fact that he did not, means no future president will ever have too, don't whine if a dem does it in the future

 

Crimony, Natty, even you've got to admit, it requires a lot of, uh, 'elasticity' to go from whether or not Biden should have to testify at Trump's impeachment hearings, all the way over to your expostulation, "If the notion that climate change is a Chinese hoax works for you, you can derive whatever solace such a silly idea affords you." Or, "...he released his tax returns just as he had repeatedly promised he would do." Who the hell was talking about Russian interference, "climate change", a "Chinese hoax", or Trump's "tax returns"...?! Are you all right...?

OK, one more time, real slow -- Trump wants to investigate Ukraine (already one of the very most corrupt countries on Earth) BEFORE we dump any more millions upon millions of dollars and "loan guarantees" in there. He gets a heads-up that there had been a 'Mt. Everest' of corruption, and that it just so happens that Joe Biden and his child were at the epicenter of a scheme to force the Ukrainian oligarchs to stop investigating corruption at the energy company where sonny-boy, Hunter, was, and would be, bagging over FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, ostensibly to do NOTHING but be Joe Biden's kid. Stop right there, Natty. Now, do you smell something that STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN OF CORRUPTION, or is that just my 'imagination', too...?

From Biden's own lips: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

Now do you think that maybe Geriatric Joe and his child just might have something to contribute to the hearings -- UNDER OATH...?

 

So Trump was carrying out US policy too?

 

Rep Radcliff sums it up nicely. One star witness goes down in flames.

 

I understand your desire to avoid confronting Fake Don's numerous crackpot proclamations, of course, but there is no indication that Biden, Trump's target, has anything to contribute concerning the scheme to smear Fake Don's political rival via the Trump/Giuliani/Parnas/Fruman caper. He did not participate in their escapade and has no inside knowledge concerning it. Calling irrelevant witnesses is a transparent ploy.

Trump did not once mention "corruption" as his pretext for withholding allocated assistance to Ukraine when he described the "favor" he was seeking in his infamous phone call to Zelensky. He specifically named Biden more than once.

Really? Did a fairy named Giuliani fly in his bedroom window and whisper it in his ear? If he could back up his phony claim with anything of substance, why hasn't he done so?

In reality, the Trump administration had, as a prerequisite for the funding, assessed Ukraine's anti-corruption actions and its other reforms and certified the propriety of the congressional allocation. Ukraine had been cleared to receive the assistance that Fake Don, apparently via Mulvaney, without the knowledge of Congress that had allocated it, stopped.

Neither the vast investigative and law enforcement resources of the Trump regime, nor those of Ukraine, nor of China, nor of any other foreign entity whom Trump may have called upon to spear his political rival, have uncovered evidence concerning Trump's imaginary claim that he has his bum kissers parroting.

Where is the evidence from a reliable source for what Fake Don has told you concerning Biden?

The reality is that it had been the policy of the United States, the European Union, the International Monetary Fund, and democratic reformers in Ukraine that the corrupt prosecutor - under whom the investigation into Burisma had become dormant before Hunter Biden joined its board - be dismissed.

Don't swallow and regurgitate the unfounded, self-serving Trumpy lies so eagerly. Documented evidence contradicts it.

 

Oh, there was no corruption worth noting in Ukraine? Being able to demonstrate a fact like that would be very helpful to the Democrats' impeachment inquiry. But they'd better be able to prove it without resorting to second-hand hearsay, shallow assumptions, or 'testimonies' from those who perpetrated or abetted the corruption in the first place. Otherwise, it will be a 'soft-underbelly' that the Republicans will tear apart like a chainsaw.

You want a reliable source for what Biden did? OK... here it is again, from Geriatric Joe's OWN LIPS -- https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html . And will you PLEASE at least acknowledge that you have seen and listened to Joe in this video so that I don't have to go on posting it over and over...? Do you hear what the man is saying?! If this isn't an admission to arrogant, strong-armed corruption-INCARNATE, then what is it?! It gets even worse when you focus on the FACTS surrounding sonny-boy Hunter's 'new job' after being thrown out of the U. S. Navy Reserve for huffing cocaine the year before....

Oh, you hit a nerve with that one, Natty -- the International Monetary Fund! Now you've identified one of the biggest and most enduring agents for international subterfuge and corruption throughout the world! If you want to have an eye-opening experience, dig into the history of the IMF and all of Eastern Europe -- particularly Ukraine, since the fall of the Soviet Union. During your discoveries, you'll no doubt notice that the arch-priestess of the IMF of many years, Mme Christine Lagarde, is now (just this month) President of the European Central Bank! I've read your posts for years, Natty... you're a bright fellow, and I'm sure you'll figure it out, even though you probably won't like where such 'research' takes you.... Suffice to say, the IMF, the EU, and the ECB have been joined-at-the-hip for decades in deepening the depth and breadth of international bankers' economic power throughout Eastern Europe, and the Ukrainian oligarchs in Kiev have become billionaires simply by 'playing along'....

Truth? I will have convinced you of nothing, I know. And, you may not believe it, but I grow less and less fond of Trump as time grinds on. Among other things, I greatly disapprove of this "wall" thing, which now has developed 'holes', and 'gates', and, which MEXICO was supposed to pay for. And I'm incensed at his endless jawboning for zero-interest rates (now, he advocates NEGATIVE interest rates). With the demand for credit, and borrowing at an all-time high, along with the lowest unemployment rate since 1969, there is absolutely NO excuse for this kind of irresponsible economic idiocy. People who have responsibly SAVED money for retirement are being brutally screwed -- AGAIN, and Trump won't be happy until everybody is flushed out into the insecure vagaries of the stock market casinos....

Sincere advice, Natty -- why don't you guys on the Left come up with candidates who have at least passing familiarity with the realities of ECONOMICS, and the time-honored principles of WORK AND REWARD. Stop trying to cultivate parasitism and worthlessness in the population! Find another "John F. Kennedy", and you might just win in a landslide!

 

The corruption about which Trump's defense undersecretary for policy had sent a letter to Congress confirming that the Pentagon had made a thorough assessment of Ukraine's anti-corruption actions and other reforms, stating in May, "On behalf of the secretary of defense, and in coordination with the secretary of state, I have certified that the government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purpose of decreasing corruption" - the official certification legally required before the aid could be released?

Again, did a little Giuliani sprite flit into Fake Don's boudoir and whisper in his ear about "corruption"? Why did he keep such a personal epiphany secret from Congress and the State Department? Why did he never mention it to Zelinsky when he asked for his "favor" that targeted Biden by name, but saying nothing about "corruption"?

We know what Biden did. He promoted the agenda of the US, the EU, the IMF, and democratic reformers in Ukraine calling for the dismissal of the corrupt prosecutor after Shokin had let the Burisma investigation lapse

In your hyper-partisan furor, you seem impervious to reality, and predisposed to swallow whatever Trump's tool Giuliani (in cahoots with Parnas, and Fruman) would tell you, rather than respected US public servants like Vindman, Taylor, Kent, and Vovanovich.

Tell your messiah to stop gagging insiders in the know like Bolton and Mulvaney, and let them testify under oath as others have in exposing the truth. What is he trying to hide?

If there is any credible evidence of wrongdoing by Trump's political rival, let Fake Don's Justice Department, with the assistance of Ukraine and China if needed, issue the indictment(s) specifying the charges rather than waging a bogus propaganda campaign through his cheerleader media entertainers.

 

Well, clearly, I think you come from "Venus", and you surely think I come from "Mars". Each of us has difficulty thinking that the other person is actually on "Earth". It's definitely weird, Natty. I guess we'll both have to wait to see what else comes 'bubbling up in the cauldron.'

I'm still not able to believe that YOU believe ol' Joe was just innocently promoting the EU, IMF, and the Obama regime's agenda when Joe strong-armed his will onto Ukraine's oligarchs. That in itself, if true, would be bad enough, given what is so obvious about the EU, the IMF, the Federal Reserve combine in this country, the European Central Bank, et al.

I daresay that if, Mike Pence, as vice-president, had pulled EXACTLY the same crap in Ukraine that ol' Joe did, and that his hypothetical, forty-something, cocaine-huffing child had landed EXACTLY the same job after Mike brutally forced his will on that country, the Democrats would be absolutely apoplectic with righteous RAGE at what the Vice-President of the United States had done! But, as we have seen so often with today's radical-Democrats, "Some are more equal than others...."