Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees

OIC, It's a CONSPIRACY and ALL the doctors and nurses in ALL the hospitals are IN ON IT. WHY this enormous subterfuge is being perpetrated is uh...well...uh.... just.to go against Republican talking points,...right?

That tinfoil looks good on you btw.

 

Not at all, once virus mutates you are not protected anymore.

 

It is doctor and nurse whistle blowers that are reporting this, not government.

 

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/27/uk-study-most-covid-deaths-occur-in-fully-vaccinated-people/

 

Directly from your link but for tech briefings 21 and 22 :
For the period: 16th August to 29 August 2021 for 50 years and younger:
Number of deaths of Vaccinated = 13
Number of deaths of unvaccinated = 27

BUT: 80%of the population are vaccinated hence 4 times the pool of people translates to:
Relative number of deaths of Vaccinated = 13
Relative number of deaths of unvaccinated = 27*4 = 108

HENCE Unvaccinated 50 years and under are 8 times more likely to die than the vaccinated even with just one dose

And
For the period: 16th August to 29 August 2021 for 50 years and older:
Number of deaths of Vaccinated = 437
Number of deaths of unvaccinated = 119

BUT: 88% of that population are vaccinated hence 7.3 times the pool of people translates to:
Relative number of deaths of Vaccinated = 437
Relative number of deaths of unvaccinated = 119*7.3 = 868

HENCE Unvaccinated 50 years and over are nearly twice as likely to die than the vaccinated even with just one dose

 

And in America?

Also use a REAL news source next time.

 

AKA "disgruntled employees"

Show me a credible news source saying this.

 

The point being the vaccinated can die.

 

LOL, the demedia is singing the government tune.

 

That is exactly what is happening.
People who were vaccinated about 6 month ago against Whuan virus, are dying at the same rate as unvaccinated.

 

In other words, there are no credible sources.

 

Half as likely is not "the same rate". The huge majority of the 135000 that have died are in the over 50 range, so the vaccine would has saved thousands just in the last few weeks. And the 6 month time scale is why a booster is being introduced to the over 50s

Meanwhile Unvaccinated 50 years and under are 8 times more likely to die than the vaccinated even with just one dose

 

There is absolutely no data supporting that statement
No one has measured effect of vaccine against Delta variant.
Government is interested in 100% vaccination so they just can lie by reporting useless statistics that is six - seven months old.
Constant stimulation with busters will eventually lead to depletion of immune system resources.

 

I gave the data directly from the links in the post I quoted. The data referred to the Delta variant and is for the period 16th August to 29 August 2021

 

Apparently doctors and nurses are not credible, only politicians, pharma and their mouthpieces are.

 

No, properly vetted testimony from journalists, legal sources etc is all that is generally acceptable There are recognized processes that are gone through to determine whether something is true and sources recognized and accepted as truthful have gone through them. You have to accept somethings as true and reject others but the criteria for this must necessarily be something other than simply your agreement with them if you wish to remain credible yourself.

 

Bingo!

Welcome to the postmodern world. There is no truth, only metanarratives concocted to maintain power relations.

 

Nonsense. We have many more and better sources of info than in the past. We have always had people trying to fool us about all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons. We have to exercise common sense and not buy every bottle of snake oil that comes down the pike, just like before

 

Beahahahaha! After all the media lies?

 

So you admit Joe Hiden lied.

How many people will die because Joe Hiden lied and said the vaccine will protect them, when, according to you, it won't?

Doesn't such a lie constitute malfeasance, which is an impeachable offense?

 

Where did I say or even imply that?

 

Snarky bullying is a poor substitute for confirmed facts and logical argumentation but then being conservative i guess it's all you have

 

Oh, no, you're going to weasel your way out of this.

I cite these direct verbatim quotes from Joe Hiden:

And fourth, I want to emphasize that the vaccines provide very strong protection from severe illness from COVID-19. I know there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation. But the world’s leading scientists confirm that if you are fully vaccinated, your risk of severe illness from COVID-19 is very low.

In fact, based on available data from the summer, only one of out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for COVID per day.

These are the facts.

The bottom line: We’re going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers.

You cannot impugn this source:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...nt-biden-on-fighting-the-covid-19-pandemic-3/

I said:

Hiden did contradict himself. No question about it. Either the vaccine protects you, or it does not.

Your pathetic ideological apologetic response was:

Clearly, there is a contradiction which I proved. And you're wrong. The unvaccinated are only a threat to other unvaccinated, unless you're willing to admit the vaccine is ineffective, which goes against the facts that it is and Hiden even says that here:

In fact, based on available data from the summer, only one of out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for COVID per day.

[Same source]

So you admitted Joe Hiden lied, because either the vaccine will protect you, or it won't.

Biden said:

And fourth, I want to emphasize that the vaccines provide very strong protection from severe illness from COVID-19. I know there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation....In fact, based on available data from the summer, only one of out of every 160,000 fully vaccinated Americans was hospitalized for COVID per day.

The bottom line: We’re going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated co-workers.

Joe Hiden lies. If the vaccine protects you, then you don't need to be protected from the unvaccinated. The only people at risk are the unvaccinated according to Hiden's own statements.

 

Bull. The unvaccinated provide a plethora of reservoirs for unweakened COVID viruses, and it is these unweakened viruses, and generally not the weakened ones which are found in vaccinated people, which can mutate into stronger forms, one of which might be virus resistant. Twist statements all you want. Unvaccinated people threaten all our lives and that should not be allowed.

 

OSHA wasn't created by the Executive Branch, the Executive Branch has no such inherent power. Congress created OSHA, 50 years ago, and granted some powers to the Executive, but, there is no evidence that the power to mandate a vaccine was part of the grant of authority from the Legislative to the Executive Branch.