Bloomberg implied farming doesn't take intelligence

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  1. Mrlucky

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    This!

    In 2016, Bloomberg delivered remarks at the Distinguished Speakers Series at the University of Oxford Saïd Business School in which he expressed doubt that rural America and coastal elites could ever be united due to the former’s inability to keep up in the information economy.

    “The agrarian society lasted 3,000 years and we could teach processes. I could teach anybody, even people in this room, no offense intended, to be a farmer,” Bloomberg said, as reported by Fox News. “It’s a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. You could learn that. Then we had 300 years of the industrial society. You put the piece of metal on the lathe, you turn the crank in the direction of the arrow and you can have a job. And we created a lot of jobs. At one point, 98 percent of the world worked in agriculture, now it’s 2 percent in the United States.”

    Bloomberg went on to say that these people could set up “a guillotine someday” if they did not find dignity in the job they are given or fail to grasp the governing factors in the information economy.

    “Now comes the information economy and the information economy is fundamentally different because it’s built around replacing people with technology and the skill sets that you have to learn are how to think and analyze, and that is a whole degree level different,” he continued. “You have to have a different skill set, you have to have a lot more gray matter. It’s not clear the teachers can teach or the students can learn, and so the challenge of society of finding jobs for these people, who we can take care of giving them a roof over their head and a meal in their stomach and a cell phone and a car and that sort of thing. But the thing that is the most important, that will stop them from setting up a guillotine someday, is the dignity of a job”
     
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    Nowhere does he say farming isn’t difficult work. You don’t seem to grasp that being able to learn a job doesn’t mean it’s not difficulty work. As I said in another post...one can learn to be a firefighter even though the job is difficult.
     
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    So God Made a "Farmer", by Paul Harvey
     
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    I'm no farmer but I spent a bit of time hauling grain for one years ago. An employee of his had to go to school quite a while to learn how to run the GPS on the tractor to make sure every inch of the wheat was fertilized or got herbicide without any overlapping. Pretty complex stuff. I'd like to see Mike do it.
     
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    Democrat Candidate Mike Bloomberg Calls American Farmers Stupid
    https://dcwhispers.com/democrat-candidate-mike-bloomberg-calls-american-farmers-stupid/

    It's in BLACK and WHITE. I didn't write it, I read it.

    Where, anywhere did anyone except you say farming wasn't difficult work. The article is about the ability to learn farming.
     
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    A farmer knows the science of horticulture and animal biology. He’s a businessman who manages money, sales, supplies, payrolls, and taxes. He’s a mechanic who can fix machinery. He can install, maintain, and fix irrigation equipment. Farmers are excellent at timing everything and juggling all these roles.

    Intelligence level of a successful farmer - way high.

    Bloomberg doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Moronic statement.
     
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    Here's where Bloomberg stuck his other foot in his mouth:

    "Now comes the information economy and the information economy is fundamentally different because it's built around replacing people with technology and the skill sets that you have to learn are how to think and analyze, and that is a whole degree level different. You have to have a different skill set, you have to have a lot more gray matter."

    As if farmers need to learn how to think and analyze. As if they don't possess enough gray matter. :roll:

    Nanny State Mike ****ed up, and as people pointed out there's obviously a lot more to farming than a city slicker from Boston knows and can teach someone.

    Derp - All ya gotta do is stick a seed in the ground and water it. :bucktooth:

    #BloombergIsRacist
     
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    His comments about farming makes him a racist? How so?
     
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    No. That Twitter thing came out after his stop and frisk comments came out.

    The point is that his gaffes are starting to pile up, big time.

    The good news for Bloomberg is that 1) farmers probably weren't going to vote for him anyway and 2) he won't have to spend any time, money and effort trying to get their vote in the future. He's kissed that constituency goodbye.
     
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    What is the evidence he’s an actual racist?
     
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    Like this:

    'I was wrong': Bloomberg sorry for 'Stop and Frisk' in about-face apology ahead of potential presidential bid'

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/michael-bloomberg-stop-and-frisk-apology/index.html

    or this:

    A New Michael Bloomberg Gaffe Surfaces; Blames Redlining End For 2008 Recession

    https://www.bet.com/news/national/2...gaffe-surfaces--blames-end-of-redlining-.html
     
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    Love the way James Woods calls Bloomberg "diminutive". Polite and to the point and I think he means in both mind and stature LOL
     
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    Nice deflection
     
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    Nice deflection
     
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    He said it didn't require brains like coding. He just insulted a HUGE part of the country and voters he desperately needs now and will even more so if he runs against Trump. And a simple apology is not going to get him out of it, I bet the Trump campaign already has their ideas down on paper of what the ad will look like.
     
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    Okay, let's try this another way - do you really believe Bloomberg could teach anyone how to be a farmer?
     
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    There’s nothing to “get out of” as he’s never going to get the nom anyway. Soon enough he’ll be a memory
     
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    Of course not.
     
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    the ignorance I read on this board is astounding

    I basically live in the middle of a cornfield

    Monsanto is who controls crop farming ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

    the herbicide named Roundup is why small town America has all but closed for business

    roundup kills everything but the crop

    crop farmers today only use chemicals and equipment to maintain crops

    very little labor is needed...the tractors are nothing more than BIG toys for farmers

    they farm owners want to drive their new big toys

    they are like kids with a toy, except their toy costs a half million!!

    a few big money guys do hire help but they farm thousands of acres

    the tractors are used in the spring for planting and spraying herbicides to kill the weeds

    combines, a grain buggy and a truck are used in the fall for harvesting

    and during the summer helicopter, airplanes and hi boys spray the pesticides

    farmers work less and less every year a few weeks in spring and a few weeks in fall

    and during the summer they sometimes mow the turnrows

    livestock and dairy is much different than dirt farming and is much more labor intense

    but with todays new farming techniques many cattle feedlots are now covered

    and hogs and chickens are indoors and have automations that makes the need for labor much less

    this last fall I noticed HUGE grain bins being built on every farm..

    the farmers all wanted to wait until the trade war with china was settled before going to market

    and BTW most farmers have crop insurance ...so a bad year don't wipe them out

    in this day and age a poor farmer is a POOR farmer

    so for the smart guys here that know farming

    is below true??

    obuma bailed out general motors with $12 billion

    trump bailed out these spoiled farmers to the tune of $28 billion
     
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    Lol Trump said he grabs ***** and still won the Christian conservative votes. I don’t think this will hurt Mike.
     
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    Reminds me of the writings in 'The Medium is the message' by Marshall McLuhan. He was a Canadian philosopher. His work is one of the cornerstones of the study of media theory.
     
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    How embarrassing for Bloomberg, he has no idea of the complexities of commercial farming, we are talking export markets, budgeting, planning, employing workers, planning for disasters... does he really think it's plant and grow and all the rest just happens by itself
     
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    As long as he is trying he will be called on it and don't count him him out, he may be the party's only savior against a Sanders win which would be a disaster.
     

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