China is able to put 14 bullet trains into operation quickly, with own designs, why not US?

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  1. ButterBalls

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    China has spent well beyond it's means and does not have the dollar stability to back it. They are in more debt (actual) then even the United States and the bill will eventually come due. It will not be pretty for anyone.
     
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    Not really. You can't get more dense than Japan, and the shinkansen works great.
     
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    Works great and cost great are two different measures. Their newest route is supposed to run over $2.5T. The US simply isn't going to spend that sort of money on a single train route and it only works great because they tunnel through and around everything which the US will not. Lord only knows how much California's alleged $100B or so two line high speed train lines will end up costing by the time they are done.
     
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    China doesn't have to worry about private property rights so much and more Chinese benefit from mass transit. They are trying to use eminent domain to get a 1/4 mile wide path between Dallas and Houston. Can you imagine how much that would cost?
     
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    The railroad probably already owns a right of way between Houston and Dallas.
     
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    They want 1/4 mile for high speed, cargo lines, toll roads, utility lines, and internet lines. They want to limit our access to cross their line and raise our taxes to reimburse all of the thousands of displaced people and towns. We voted it down at least once. They keep bringing it up in one form or another.
     
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    Texas Central announced a bullet train between Dallas and Houston in March 2017... to carry some 50,000 people who commute between the two every week. It will be elevated and travel 200 MPH. There's lots of detailed information about it .
    Private financing.. not on the taxpayers.
     
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    Here is what they were trying to do a few years ago. It was to cost $175B.

    http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/c...rridor-plans-dropped-after-public-1745411.php

    What we have now is a "lite" version of it that they didn't have to put up for a referendum. My in laws whole town may be forced to resettle for this rail. It depends on the path through our area.
     
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    Then do it in your state. My in laws have owned that land for 100 years and they stand to lose it all, at the expense of increasing my taxes. And that's just one little town of many that will be steamrolled.

    In the time I could drive to Dallas, pay for parking for my car, take the train to Houston, and rent a car, I could drive to Houston and already be at my destination in Houston for much less. It's like the cities get all of the benefit at the expense of all of the "flyover" area between the cities.
     
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    Give me a link for that the only think I've seen is him siding with the green weanies and I don't do hate sites. What he does know is that the minute that Keystone goes into service he's hauled his last train load of oil. And you don't have to haul all of it just enough to keep the refineries stocked which given that they are just now coming back on line after, the hurricane that flooded Houston that's pretty easy.
     
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    What you think you know is incorrect the pipeline won't handle nearly all of the oil
     
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    LOLOL.. It won't make any difference ..
     
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    Again you don't need high speed rail for that. Northern NJ to NYC for example isn't a long enough distance to get high speed rail up to speed before you have to start decelerating.
     
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    That's true.
     
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    Texas Central is not using taxpayer money and it will create many jobs in the construction phase.. and about 1,000 permanent jobs. Its a 90 minute trip.
     
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    Texas Central is not using taxpayer money and it will create many jobs in the construction phase.. and about 1,000 permanent jobs. Its a 90 minute trip.
     
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    It will handle all that is needed. Your knowledge of oil pipelines and the oil industry is second to that of your average ten year old. You don't even appear to know what all a refinery does. Or it's capacity.
     
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    Texas Central is not using taxpayer money and it will create many jobs in the construction phase.. and about 1,000 permanent jobs. Its a 90 minute trip.
     
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    No it won't .. and it won't be built at all if the ppb stays low.
     
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    Again it doesn't have to.
     
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    Nonsense. And it is a hell of a lot cheaper than shipping it there by rail so yes it will be built no matter the price per barrel. How many Oil cars on your average tanker train fifty a hundred. that pipeline hauls the equivalent amount of oil of about 20 to 30 trains at a minimum at about 1/4 the price after it's built. And it doesn't have weather issues.
     

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