China plans double-digit boost in military spending

I have not admitted anything. You claimed that there was an international meeting and everyone was invited and when called on that you went off into there being a loya jirga. You were incorrect in the first instance and had to add another conference to cover your ass. I am just confirming that the Afghan government is full of corruption and drug dealers. What you should do in the future is formulate your argument properly then you would not need to add in stuff later.

 

Don't get mad. Admitting you were mistaken is good for the soul.

 

You can repeat that all of your life but at the end of the day you were the one who made a false claim and then had to change your mind and add another conference. Not my fault you did not do your research properly. Next time try harder.You claimed that everyone was invited to an international conference and you were fecking wrong . I quote.

The UN and everybody?

and then? Seems that was not true and when called on it. Behold..

So now it is not one international conference where everybody was present,now there are two conferences as you were wrong to claim everybody was present at the first one as they were not. Get your facts right first off next time.I am finished giving you another lesson now. Thanks.

 

Thanks for admitting you were mistaken. It takes honor and courage to do so.

 

China is having more population and it's technicality is also advanced that why he want his strength and control all countries

 

Two simple facts remain.

The US spends far more on it's military than China even with China's increased spending. The US could cut it's military spending by 75% and still be spending more than China.

China is not a military threat to the United States and the US does not need to defend itself from potential Chinese aggression.

 

The US spends far more because technology and elite training is costly. China has a conscript army of poorly trained and badly equiped troop, except for a few "elite" troops that have better equipment and training. Present day China would be a formidable enemy if we were still in the 70's.

But, while China isn't a threat to the USA, just like ermany wasn't really a threat to the USA in WW2, China is still a threat to its neighbor, many of which are our allies and trading partners. They could easilly swamp any of it's neighbor under it's massive number of troops.

You sound like Chamberlain when you talk about China...

 

China will become more powerful militarily with each passing year. At the same time America has no choice but to cut its military radically. The two trajectories will cross in less than twenty years.

The Chinese way is to win by out thinking their opponents, not by fighting.

 

Hasn't worked all that well for them so far... Vietnam, USSR, India, Korea... Hell it didn't even worked when they were fighting each other, resulting with the stalemate of Taiwan...

What they have is a big conscript army equiped with either russian tech or copy of russian tech... Same as what Iraq had when they were considered the 4th biggest military on earth... Didn't turned out as expected for them now did it?

Thing is, China is building its force with a 1970's vision. The world has moved on. Small highly specialized units > conscript masses today.

 

its call outlasting your enemy. china is keep improving. it start modernize in the 90s and its ongoing process. we can see the things chinese done for the past 10yr, t99a2, 52c, hundreds j10/su27/su30/j11/j11b, new j20/j15, alot anti-access weapon etc. iraq didn't have that, and its much poor trained compare to china. though china still lag far behind numbers of US military, it is narrowing the gap. for example we can park our cvbg in taiwan strait with impunity, but we can't do that know without worry about their anti-access weapon. also they have huge surplus, and large manufacture, both are required for large military. china's power is not in its military but its economy. huge surplus, 8%growth, etc etc. soviet collapse because it doesn't have a large economy to back up its military. if we dont cut back the defecit, well turn into greece soon, and we won't able to afford our military.

 

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But they do have nuclear weapons. That should not be ignored.
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Which they can't use unless they want to be erased from the map. Their stockpile is low compared to the USA. And that is assuming that those missile reach the USA in the first place.

 

They can't outlast their enemy. They can barely feed themselves and with that silly one child policy that is responsible for the death of million of baby girls each year, they are breeding themselves out of existence. India is about to overtake them.

China,s economy is linked at the waist with the USA. IN case of a war between the two, the Chinese lose it all while the USA becomes debt free. Like I said so many time, having a big conscript army doesn't amount to much in this day and age. Ask Saddam who's army was ranked 4th in the world when he invaded Koweit...

And beside most of the weapon system that you list are either poor copy of marginal russian equipment or totaly unproven in the field, while the USA and Nato systems are tried and true and constantly upgraded and refit to correct any deficiencies that were encountered during actual combat.

 

i beg differ, they have 3.2trillion reserve, growth is 8%, our is 14trillion debt, growth 2%, how did soviet collapse? economy.

china has no intention going war with US, same for US. so whoever economy last, who will be the winner.

and no its not a poor copy, china current quality of weapons mostly on par with russia stuff. one of the reason china hasn't import any russia weapon anymore becuase they can make similar quality of weapons compare to russia. there are very few russia weapons that china still interest in.

again you think about military confrontation which is unlikely to happen, just like cold war, no conflict betwee US and soviet ever happened.

the outcome will depend on future economy. if we don't get our budget on the right track, the debt will increase, and eventually we will become another greece etc.

 

Their reserve is mostly in US $ bonds...

The soviet weren't capitalist and private enterprise and diversity was discouraged... Man you should at least try to study the subject you are trying to discuss instead of towing the PRC party line...

They are poor copy of russian gear... And they are also untested in the field since the chinese haven't really field any troops in conflict since 1979 when they LOST to the vietnamese...

China is a paper tiger. They need us way more than we need them. All that there are is a big pool of underpaid and underskill sweatshop workers who are exploited by their marginally communist and quite despotic masters. A cold war with china!?! LOL... They can't live without US buying their cheap knockoff... But we can totaly exist without those cheap gizmut. Hell, it would even be a great thing either for India who would take over from china or even for us since we could always start producing our own dvd players and clothes instead of "investing" in the PRC...

 

about 1T in US bond, and they been selling it for some time now.

man, can i make the soviet case more clear. one of the major factor soviet fall because they build too many military weapon without a strong economy to back it up. in other word, they don't have the cash to support their military budget. china is the opposite, currently. US is on the same track as the soviet, it HAS nothing to do with what type of economy, its about budge management. what do you think will happen if our budget increase about another dozen Trillion. you think we can support our 800billion military budget, support war anywhere with infinite defecit.

again you have no understand of chinese equipment, how they developmed etc, and think they only copy poorly from russia. i suggest you do some reading/research on that.

US is not the largest importer of chinese good anymore, europe is. on top of that china internal domestic market is raising fast. they know they can't rely on US too much, they already seen our defecit, they are not stupid. again do some research on china wage raise in recent year. you know how many manufacture jobs went to vietnam or other 3rd world country recently due to raising wages in china. you are naive to think china can't live without US, it will hurt them yes, but US is not china's only trading partner. you might want to check the rank of other countries trading partner list, china is almost always #1. they have 1.3billion customer in china too. check how many car, apply product, electronics ,pc, cell phone etc etc sold in china.

 

1- Chinese equipment are copy of russian gear, sorry to disapoint you but that is a fact.

2- You seem to know even less about the economy than you do about military equipment. A country doesn't become rich via internal market. That is monopoly money. Those 1.3 billion chinese are only an aset for foreign countries who want to exploit them. When one chinese trades with another chinese the total growth for china is 0.

3- We own china by the balls. If they don't behave, we cut them off. No more investment, no more trades, no more china...

4- China is the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) of everybody around her. She has never won a single war against anybody that matters beside hefr own population.

5- India is growing just as fast and doesn't have a stupid system that kill baby girls in place insuring a future population imbalence that will turn its male population to do a circle jerk between themselves or go without sex for the rest of their life.

 

China's military budget is now officially in excess of $100 Billion per annum. The real number is closer to $150 Billion/annum.

 

right keep beliving it. you really need do some research on their j10,j20,52c etc. obviously you have no clue whats going on in china. just keep underestimate them

 

unproven in combat situation... And already obsolete when put against what is available in the US and Nato arsenals.

You're the one that is delusional.

 

The Chinese build a class of weapons in small numbers, experiment, learn, steal, add, build another class of weapons, experiment , learn, steal, add, build another class of weapons, experiment...and ultimately they get good at what they are doing.

 

And yet they can't even win a single war... Unless when they are fighting each other.

And BTW they must still be in that "build a class of weapons in small numbers, experiment, learn, steal, add, build another class of weapons, experiment , learn, steal, add, build another class of weapons, experiment..." because their equipment is still subpar and falling to pieces.

 

The Chinese will not always be in this phase.

Btw, the Han won the first war they fought against a western power.

 

obviously you are ignorant and lack information on china.

 

sure. whatever, i'm gonna stop argue with you to keep my sanity.