CNN Poll" 66% Support Cut, Cap, and Balance. 74% Support Balanced Budget Amendment

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they cut spending to SS, medicare, medicaid or aid to the poor, there will be slaughter all right.
     
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    Hmmm, I didn't.
     
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    surprised the hell out of me but apparently he knows he can get a party line vote. That will make Obama and the Dems look good and like they are reasonable people. Hate to say it but old Harry is smarter than I want to admit.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...190.html?1311281684&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008


     
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    I don't deny he's in probably the second most stressful position in the talks right now, the first being Obama.

    Why Obama wants to deal with another 4 years of this kind of hell beats me.

    I wouldn't want either job, but both have to get the job done.
     
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    The problem is that Tea party conservatives have already seen what happens when the so-called conservatives "play along"= the Bush years of domestic policy.
    We don't want RINO legislation; we need someone charismatic , like Mike Pence, or Mark Rubio, to carry the message.
    Boehner loses politically due to his milquetoast manner.
     
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    Thing is if Reid wasn't running the Senate, he would not have to have a milquetoast manner. If the GOP had the numbers in the Senate they could be slapping Obama around like a political punching bag right now. When the GOP is outnumbered 2 to 1 wtf do you expect?
     
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    One of the problems with Mr. Obama is that he doesn't respect the Constitution or what the people he serves want.
    We didn't want Obamacare and he forced it on us anyway. We want to drill more of our own oil and he won't allow that either. We want to cut spending and he wants more spending.

    He's more like a dictator than a POTUS.

    He's got to go.
     
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    That is not what "we" want at all. Speak for yourself.
     
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    Because his brand of conservative back home is only concerned with business and pro-business policies and much of the Tea Party "Constitutional Conservatism" is nothing but patriotic puff to them! They want whats good for their businesses, they couldn't care less abotu 10th amendment violations or the Fed or the Gold Reserve. It doesn't affect day to day operations on their businesses.

    I know personally all my hopes, dreams and ambitions are locked up in my employer expanding his business in the next 12 months. Anything that puts that into danger, like tax hikes, etc. etc. that is detrimental to that expansion must be stopped. Nationally, locally, or Statewide. My future for the next 5 years is on the line. But a lot of that Libertarianistic mumbo jumbo to me is quaint and nice, but it's not exactly sound fiscal policy.

    Iriemon made an excellent point. Just how stupid the American people are. They don't want to cut anything specific because none of them want to suffer the consequences. That poll has done nothing but convince me that this nation is consigned to oblivion and it's time to plan an exit strategy. The American People themselves are not prepared to accept the necessary austerity, or the taxation upon all the classes of society, to make this nation financially solvent.

    This poll is going to do nothing but convince the bond vigilantes to start selling T-Bills because they are going to see that 80% plus of the American People refuse to cut the necessary entitlement programs.

    Sad day IMO.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) the average dumbass American and his greedy entitled ass. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Fred Flintstone was smarter. We got Homer (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Simpson.
     
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    For him to act like the House is the nation's purse strings...which it is. He can leverage everybody's everything from his position.

    It just takes the balls to do so...
     
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    In another proposal, Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment were passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending were approved. Would you favor or oppose this proposal?

    July 18-20 2011

    Favor.........66%
    Oppose......33%
    No opinion...1%
    POLL

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/21/rel11b.pdf

    I would go for $1 trillion in tax hikes, $6 trillion in spending cuts and.....AND, no exceptions, a balanced budget amendment.
     
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    Obamacare was a bloody stupid idea,and the utterly insane “Cap-and-Trade” bill is another lunatic idea. Taxing you at a time when you need to hold on to your money is wrong and stupid, but doing so in the name of reducing “global warming” when there hasn’t been any global warming for a decade and the planet is looking at ten, twenty or more years of cooling isn’t just wrong, it’s the worst kind of lie. Yes, the President is lying.How you Americans can put up with this insanely ideological, utterly socialist, union boot-licking, anti-constitutional, “czar” crazy administration is totally beyond me!
     
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    FAVOR. It accomplishes most of what I want, in a roundabout way...
     
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    Grok how can he do a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing more than he is doing as long as the Dems control the Senate. They can vote down or table anything he passes. Most of the public will just suck up whatever they hear on the nightly news or read in USA Today
     
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    @ OP

    Yes, of course the majority wants a balanced budget, a return to fiscal sanity.

    The poll results are not surprising at all, people have been upset about this for years.
     
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    This is what the GOP needs to address directly, by using ENGAGING INDIVIDUALS to sell what are clearly better ideas; the GOP shold be able to shred the DNC over budget/finance matters, yet we are in a standoff.

    We need to "play the game" like we know WTF we are doing; like REAGAN DID, when the Dems had BOTH HOUSES.

    Take it to the people; when the Senate Dems start feeling the heat from back home, they'll become a lot more amenable than they are currently.

    Conservatives need a media-savvy HERO (heroes, heroine(s) ), to win the battle of the body politic...
     
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    Tea Party conservatives are not interested in just being in power.

    We want fundamental change because only a dramatic change in course can save this country.
     
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    Yet:

    In another proposal, Congress would give President Obama the ability to raise the debt ceiling several times in the next 18 months while cutting a smaller amount in government spending and not raising taxes at all. Would you favor or oppose this proposal?

    Oppose 65%


    How do you reconcile?
     
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    Yet, the big majorities don't want to cut spending in these areas:


    Cutting federal subsidies to farmers: 66% Oppose.

    Cutting pensions and benefits for retired government workers: 68% Oppose

    Cutting defense spending: 52% oppose

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicaid, the federal health program for the poor: 77% Oppose

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicare,
    the federal health program for the elderly 87% Oppose

    Cutting the amount the government spends on Social Security: 84% Oppose


    The majority claims it wants to balance the budget, but how do they want to do it?
     
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    Agreed; more of the same is not "progress", it's just "progressive"...:puke:
     
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    No Fedeally funded studies of gay penis length, etal, would be a great start...no Federal dollars to California schools for "gay history"...no Federally funded global warming scam "studies"...
     
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    If the Govt were spending $1 trillion on penis studies you'd have a good point.
     
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    Or the drinking habits of Chinese whores.

    We could cut a trillion dollars from the federal budget without hurting the country one bit.
     
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    This.. This makes me sick. This shows just how spoiled and lazy and rotten the American people have become.

    They will reap what they sow, and if the big crash comes. I hope I've already made my wad and split.
     
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    Except the Democrats who use it to buy votes.
     

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