CNN Poll" 66% Support Cut, Cap, and Balance. 74% Support Balanced Budget Amendment

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They've just been mislead. Pandering politicians feed them garbage all the time about all the "waste" in DC and they think that trillions of spending can be cut without touching those programs.

    Either that or they are all in favor of cutting spending, as long as its not the stuff they like and it's spending on other people's stuff they want to cut.
     
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    Kill the Obama deficits. There is nothing to be liked in there.
     
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    Uh huh. And putting aside social security, defense, medicare, medicaid and aid to the poor that large majorities don't want cut, where would we find this easy trillion to cut, in your opinion.
     
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    There is enough to fund all those things at current revenue levels.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it was the Republicans who insisted on the $400 billion in tax cuts.
     
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    Which lowered unemployment, and resulted in eventually declining deficits.
     
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    Wasn't it the Republicans who passed the Prescription Drug Company Profit Enhancement Act?
     
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    One has to go thirteen paragraphs into the story to find CNN addressing this at all:

    Why? Shouldn't the Senate be responsible to the people who elected them as well? Then again - the Senate hasn't passed a budget in over 800+ days - so they are hardly responsible at all. To quote Barack Obama, the American people are sold — on the Republican plan passed in the House to deal with the debt-ceiling and spending crises. Too bad CNN buried the lede...but not unexpected.

    Call your Senators & tell him/her you expect for them to act like an adult and be fiscally responsible & vote to pass CCB!
     
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    Medicare D was not a conservative idea.
     
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    I think one problem is giving the public too many choices and too many variables when they don't know the end result.

    A better way to present the issue is to cut every federal program equally across the board.

    If the number is 10% then defense and farm subsidies and food stamps will all be reduced by the same percentage.

    But no one wants to be the sacrificial lamb that gets slaughtered while everyone else goes free.
     
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    Everything Bush did to get along with Democrats resulted in his failure. The Ownership society, Medicare D, among them.
     
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    We gotta keep Obama and the Democrats' nuts, as puny as they are, in a vice for 17 months. A turn or two per month is about right.

    In the meantime, how about that continuing momentum still from the 2010 elections :)

    Hey libs. Get those jobs now. No time to waste. You are screwed if you wait until the last minute. ;)
     
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    I don't speak for you. People who are of the partisan leaning you are, are part of the problem - not the solution. Such people want more spending and bigger govt. That's NOT what the FFs intended and it's NOT what the Constitution intended. The socialism and big govt you want is NOT what this country is all about. We're trying to fix that. Get out of the way.
     
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    Whenever things don't go the liberals' way it has to be because people are "woefully ignorant". It can't be because the liberals are wrong. No, no, no, no, never.
     
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    The constitution mentions not a thing about spending.
     
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    You think? Here's the major expenditure groups, courtesy of the OMB. Items in red are off limits. Where is the 1.3 trillion in cuts going to come from?

    693,586 National Defense
    127,710 Education, Training, Employment, and Social Services
    369,054 Health
    451,636 Medicare
    622,210 Income Security
    706,737 Social Security
    108,384 Veterans Benefits and Services
    88,753 Physical resources
    11,613 Energy
    43,662 Natural Resources and Environment
    -82,298 Commerce and Housing Credit
    91,972 Transportation
    23,804 Community and Regional Development
    196,194 Net interest
    174,065 Other functions
    45,195 International Affairs
    31,047 General Science, Space, and Technology
    21,356 Agriculture
    53,436 Administration of Justice
    23,031 General Government
    .......... Allowances
    -82,116 Undistributed offsetting receipts

    3,456,213 Total, Federal outlays

    Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/hist03z1.xls
     
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    The first $1T is Obama's new annual deficits. Roll it back to 2008 levels.

    Nobody but the looter Obama will miss it.
     
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    Bullcrap; it states, quite clearly that ALL APPROPRIATIONS must begin in the House. I wish Boehner would act like he knew that...
     
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    I should have been more precise. It mentions not a thing about spending levels. Sorry, Trinnity.
     
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    Uh huh. And give that large majorities don't want to cut SS, medicare, medicaid, aid to the poor, aid to farmers or defense (slim majority), where is this trillion dollars going to come from?

    Use the table in post #66 to identify the area.

    That is the problems with the Pass the Buck Generation and spending. Folks have been mislead by pandering politicians and dishonest radio talk show hosts to belief that a trillion dollars can be cut without touching the major programs. Just ain't so.
     
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    Cut Obamacare - there's a trillion. :bored:
     
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    Oh (*)(*)(*)(*) I need to retype that!
     
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    You could roll spending back to the level it was before Democrats controlled Congress in 2007, and nobody but the debt crack whore Democrats who are stealing from our children would miss it.
     
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    Okay let me try this again, the Republicans of the HOR, the People's House so named for a good reason, even though civic's obviously is not taught any more? Do the majority of the this Forum know why the HOR is called the People's House? Secondly, polls show nothing as far anything of use, its just a way that the media can create and manage a news story to promote their beliefs, its rather a sad comment on the Journalistic Community. Look at the CNN Poll, you think they are broadcasting the results tonight as they say how bad the idea of Cut, Cap and Balance? Today there is no plausible excuse or even a feasible explanation of the media, yet who watches?

    So get some sort of smarts people, the polls aint showing nothing except that the American People in 2010 elected the Republcans by sweeping numbers and nearly took that Senate, it was the great Emperor Child Obama that stated, "Elections have Consequences" and the media gave him a megaphone and bowed to the Holy Emperor Child Obama. Now the cards have been reshuffled, enough well maybe, or should I say a few Democratic Senators that feel that the people actions as in the Vote still mean something, I have no doubt that the House's Bill will pass if allowed to go to the Senate Floor for a vote. I'm sure their telephones, email and heavy duty money givers will let them know how they feel.

    Once again, you can only scream so much about how it won't pass, as I hear people scream such and such team can't win, but we still play the game and you know what? A lot of time the underdog wins, this is likely one of those times. If it does lose then that would only strengthen Obama's and Democrats side in the debate, they can then say "hey it went down as a big no" right now they seem more happy with ignoring and not allowing a vote, you ever ask yourself why not let it go to a vote in the Senate? If you and they are so sure it will fail then why the hesteria?
     
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    Okay. That will mean:
    • 13% cut in Social Security.
    • 15% cut in Medicare.
    • 6% cut in DoD.
    • 25% cut in Veterans Affairs.
    • Instant elimination of the war in Afghanistan (it was not included in the 2008 budget).
    • Instant elimination of the war in Iraq (it was not included in the 2008 budget).
    So, under your proposal seniors get the shaft, the DoD gets a light trim, and disabled veterans get three-wheeled wheelchairs while the Taliban retakes Afghanistan unopposed. Interesting proposal from a 'conservative', but I'm sure you have your reasons. . . . .

    2008 budget 2010 budget
     

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