CNN Poll" 66% Support Cut, Cap, and Balance. 74% Support Balanced Budget Amendment

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  1. Inactive928

    Inactive928 Banned

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    Uhhh, over 10 years. You realize that, correct? :confuse:

    So, your solution to balance the budget for one year is to do it over 10 years? :confuse:
     
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    Go for it.

    Obama lied both about cutting the deficit in half and getting out of Iraq and the Afghanistan.
     
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    You must have a short memory because I very distinctly remember that people were pretty much agreed that the Dems would lose seats.

    20. If the debt ceiling is not raised, do you think that Barack Obama or the Republicans in Congress
    would be more responsible for that?
    July 18-20
    2011
    Obama 30%
    Republicans 51%
    Both (vol.) 15%
    Neither(vol.) 3%
    No opinion 1%

    21. In some proposals, Congress would raise the debt ceiling while cutting between two trillion and
    four trillion dollars in government spending over the next ten years and raising taxes on some
    businesses and higher-income Americans. Would you favor or oppose this proposal?
    July 18-20
    2011
    Favor 66%
    Oppose 34%
    No opinion 1%

    Think on that.

    No
    Favor Oppose opinion
    Cutting federal subsidies to farmers 31% 66% 2%
    Cutting pensions and benefits for retired government workers 30% 68% 2%
    Cutting defense spending 47% 52% 1%
    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicaid,
    the federal health program for the poor 22% 77% *
    Cutting the amount the government spends on Medicare,
    the federal health program for the elderly 12% 87% 1%
    Cutting the amount the government spends on Social Security 16% 84% 1%
    Increasing the taxes paid by oil and gas companies by ending
    federal subsidies for those businesses 73% 26% 1%
    Increasing the taxes paid by businesses that own private jets 76% 23% *
    Increasing the taxes paid by people who make more than
    250 thousand dollars a year 73% 26% *
     
  4. Landru Guide Us

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    People usually support the short version, GOP misrepresentations of their policies. So it is with the balanced budget amendment silliness.

    Once they hear the details they conclude, you've got to be kidding.

    A BBA is dead on arrival and hopefully will stay dead. Regrettably some knownothing GOP majority in Congress always seems to resurrect it.
     
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    I would propose this

    SS 20% means testing and even increase the poorest seniors allocations

    Medicare 10% cut (easily done with means testing, sock it to the rich)

    Defense 20% cut reducing contracts and calling soldiers out of europe and Korea and if you want the ME but that would take actions by the President, then reopen bases here in the States maybe close to the borders?

    Federal Employee Pay 10% cut

    IRS 50% cut

    DEA 100% cut

    FBI 20% cut

    ATF 50% cut

    Reduce federal employment rolls by at least 20%-40%, elimination of such
    Departments as in Labor, Education, Commerce etc etc most of them can be eliminated without the People taking it on the chin.

    Redefine the way the Congress, cut their retirment plans, maybe even part time, meet three times a year, I assure you most will not miss them, hell they are out at least 50% of the year or so it seems?

    Eliminate Obama Care

    Eliminate the Frank/Dodd Finance Reform Bill

    Eliminate the SEC, OSHA and a few others I can't think of right now.

    That is just off the top of head I'm sure I can come up with a lot more, oh like the contributions to the International Bank!
     
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    Translation: you need Democrat debt crack whores to tell you what to think.
     
  7. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh. And given that large majorities don't want to cut SS, medicare, medicaid, aid to the poor, aid to farmers or defense (slim majority), where is this $800 billion going to come from?

    Use the table in post #66 to identify the area.
     
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    I could agree with about half of that; not a bad start. Thanks for putting forth some thought and concrete ideas instead of the empty rhetoric that too-often clogs these pages. Well done :thumbsup:
     
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    Yeah that'll save money alright. I mean, there's nothing like rampant securities fraud and financial collapse to keep the government well funded.

    Some of your other items weren't half bad, but your Tea Party deregulatory syndrome has got the better of you.
     
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    Cutting the IRS would increase the deficit, not reduce it.
     
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    Nothing to do with Tea Party influence more then likely my Insurance days is coming out. Have you ever talked or try to reason with the average CFP?
     
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    This entire thread is one giant pile of lies from the right wing...

    Did anyone read the poll?
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/21/rel11b.pdf

    Iriemon posted it...

    The poll supports the presidents position almost perfectly.

    The poll shows more people think the President is doing a good job than the republicans in congress.

    Only a right winger is so blind and ignorant as to look at a poll like that, ignore every single question but one about a balanced budget admendment and then claim victory.

    Personally, I would like to thank the OP for providing more evidence of how the American public is realizing that the republicans are doing a very poor job.
     
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    Democrats already cut $500B from Medicare. Social Security is off budget.

    If Democrats had ideas Americans supported, they'd propose them.
     
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    Government crashing the housing market by threatening banks who don't make home loans to unqualified buyers is not "deregulation."
     
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    Yea maybe but not if you eliminate our rather large intrusive Tax Code and come up with something everyone knows without a team of CPA and Attorneys. In fact you could likely cut by 75% if you done that. Yet the truth is stunning, Americans are quite effective in paying their taxes without the IRS knocking on their door.
     
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    Translation: Revere never makes a post that is more than a one sentence name calling worthless troll.
     
  17. Iriemon

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    You mean it was George "Mr. Ownership Society" Bush generating all those billions in bonuses to the party boys in Wall Street during his housing bubble?

    And you guys think we should trust you to pick someone to run the Government again?
     
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    The IRC is remarkably simple for 95% of the population. You get your W-2, you take standard deductions, you fill out two sheets of paper in 30 minutes. That's it.

    The meme that the IRC is so complex is off base. It's complex if you have an LLC with differential special allocations unrelated to capital contributions. It's complex if you are a corporation with overseas divisions. It's pretty simple for everybody else.

    What problem are you trying to solve? I mean really?
     
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    BINGO!

    He must even bore himself.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Americans are quite effective at not paying them.

    I agree with simplifying the tax code, though.
     
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    Republicans who want to get along with Democrats can't be trusted.
     
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    Since that didn't happen, what are you talking about -- some Tea Party wet dream that passes for history?
     
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    It did. And the DOJ is still threatening banks who don't make loans to unqualified buyers.
     
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    That is a good point. And for 4 of the remaining 5%, you use a tax program and do it.

    It's the big corporations and 1% that can afford to hire tax lawyers and accountants to take advantage of tax laws that have to deal with the complications.

    Still a good reason to get rid of them, IMO.
     
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    Republicans can't be trusted.

    That simplifies it.
     

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