Congress will see Barr's redacted version of the Mueller Report

You need to broaden your political reading. It is ILLEGAL to divulge anything that happened in a grand jury to anyone regardless of clearance. It is against policy to name people who are not indicted. It is common sense that the house members not get classified information from the report since they don't need it to do their job. Only the FBI and white house engage in leaking more than members of congress. All of this is known by the members of congress and me. Why is it not known by you? All the anger and gnashing of teeth over a report nobody has yet. Calm down.

 

No, this is total nonsense.

The House Intelligence committee routinely has information that would be disastrous to various individuals if it were made public.

 

I don't know about tit for tat, but you asserted loudly there was no precedent for an AG withholding information from congress, and I simply pointed out the egregious error of your ways.

 

I identified special prosecutors who were performing investigations such as that of Mueller.

 

"The completely exonerated President." You can only wish. We have not seen the Mueller Report. Neither has Congress. We have only seen the opinion of a highly biased Trump employee.

Obviously, some information has to be redacted before it is released to the public.

But not to Congress. Our representatives see some of the most sensitive, vital intelligence our agencies have to offer. They need to see it so they can do their jobs, which include funding projects and military adventures and oversight of the executive branch. There is nothing in the Mueller Report more sacred than that intelligence.

 

Why trust Barr. In high school, he was asked to read the Take of Two Cities and summarize it. All he could write was, “ it was the best of times......”

 

Those are regulations for the DOJ, or e-CFR. Congress is not subject to DOJ rules.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.9

We are not talking about the public release of the Mueller Report. We are talking about the release of the Mueller Report to Congress so that our representatives can see it.

Do you have a problem with that? If so, explain the problem.

A bigger question, if Barr does not release the entire Mueller Report to Congress, what is Barr hiding?

Of particular interest is Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), which Barr says will be used in the redaction process. In essence, 6(e) says that if the prosecutor is not going to charge a person with a crime, the DOJ is prohibited from divulging evidence concerning that individual. Since the DOJ has another rule -- a sitting President cannot be charged with a crime -- it is certainly possible that evidentiary evidence against the President will be excluded in Barr's version of the report to Congress.

That para is contained in the OP. Funny, no Trump fan has addressed that issue. It is an important one.

Which would explain why Trump's fans have avoided it. They like to pretend unpleasant facts do not exist.

 

Congress cannot keep a secret. The more people that see it the more likely it will be compromised. Mueller is helping Barr with the redaction. You either have faith in Mueller or you do not. If you have no faith in Mueller being honest with the reaction then you might as well forget the fact that Mueller conducted the investigation.

 

We are not talking about a law. We are talking about DOJ rules.

Traditionally, the grand jury has conducted its work in secret. Secrecy prevents those under scrutiny from fleeing or importuning the grand jurors, encourages full disclosure by witnesses, and protects the innocent from unwarranted prosecution, among other things. The long-established rule of grand jury secrecy is enshrined in Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), which provides that government attorneys and the jurors themselves, among others, “must not disclose a matter occurring before the grand jury.”

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/secrecy/R45456.pdf

 

Exactly what has to be kept a secret ? While we’re fighting over Barr’s 4 page monarch series book report, Trump is taking away a good economy for tomorrow, your healthcare, your safety and your voting rights.

 

I just knew someone would say that. Unfortunately, that was you. That is an urban legend.

Congress has the responsibilities of oversight and the power of the purse. Also, only Congress can declare war. Also, the War Powers Resolution gives Congress the power over military operations.

The Gang of Eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligence matters by the executive branch. Specifically, the Gang of Eight includes the leaders of each of the two parties from both the Senate and House of Representatives, and the chairs and ranking minority members of both the Senate Committee and House Committee for intelligence as set forth by 50 U.S.C. § 3093(c)(2).

Under normal conditions, the President of the United States is required by Title 50 U.S.C. § 3091(a)(1) to "ensure that the congressional intelligence committees are kept fully and currently informed of the intelligence activities of the United States, including any significant anticipated intelligence activity as required by [the] title." However, under "extraordinary circumstances", when the President thinks "it is essential to limit access" to information about a covert action, 50 U.S.C. § 3093(c)(2) allows the President to limit reporting to the Gang of Eight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(intelligence)

Barr keeping information from the Mueller Report from Congress is ludicrous and indicates strongly that he is protecting Trump. It would be strong indication that Trump collaborated with the Russian government and obstructed justice.

If Barr gives Congress his version of the Mueller report, particularly in view of Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e) (see OP or post 107), there is a reason why Barr is hiding something.

It is not to protect someone's privacy. That is con, and a bad one at that. Since when has the DOJ or FBI been concerned about someone's privacy when our nation's security is at risk.

 

It is not an urban legend. You give access to over five hundred people and the risk goes up geometrically. That is especially true with a body of people who are trying to show how important they are and people who have not lived with classified information on a daily basis for a major part of their lives.

Therefore I can only conclude that you do not trust Mueller.

 

No, the Mueller report would go to the House Intelligence committee. A redacted version would be made public.

I would suggest it is Trump you aren't trusting.

 

A review of Barr's bias. Along with rule 6(e), Trump's fans have ignored this, too.

Because Barr is a bit biased when it comes to the Mueller Report. Barr authored a memo in June 2018. saying he thought the Mueller investigation was "fatally misconceived."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/bill-barr-comey-obstruction/index.html

In addition, Barr is a strong believer in the unitary executive. According to the unitary executive theory, since the Constitution assigns the president all of “the executive power”, he can set aside laws that attempt to limit his power over national security. This is an enormous power: critics charge that it effectively places the president above the law.

It is for these two reasons that Trump choose Barr in the first place. It is why Trump deferred to Barr when it comes to executive privilege. Barr will decide what is subject to executive privilege, and that, too, will be left out of his version of the Mueller Report. This is the man who will determine what Congress sees if Barr gets his way.

 

Let’s see, we have to redact much of the report to keep secret information that maybe used in grand jury indictments vs Trumps team. Hmm. The more swamp he has around him the better protected he becomes.

 

Mueller is involved in the redaction. Do you not trust Mueller? There is absolutely no need for congress, whether it is the whole group or part, to see the whole report. It is just more democratic hogwash.

 

But is Mueller biased when it comes to the Mueller report?

 

Stop it, you're killing me, man.

 

Do you trust Mueller or not? It is a very simple question.

 

How do you know that?

Oh, Barr said so. The man in charge of the redactions. That is called cover. Are you really that gullible?

Well, a typical Trump fan. What can I say? Do you believe everything Trump tells you, too?

 

Yes. We haven't heard from Mueller. We have only heard from Barr. Keep that in mind. Also, no one has seen the Mueller Report except Barr and his people.

 

The intelligence committee ordinarily sees classified materials. Definitely the rest of us see the redacted version. Can the intelligence committee see grand jury testimony? Perhaps but i do not know. Will check into it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-happen-muellers-report-become-public/586060/

 

"Like clockwork, Attorney General William Barr dropped a follow-up letter regarding the Mueller report just before 5 p.m. on a Friday. More notable than his confirmation that he plans on releasing the report by "mid-April" is the fact that he confirmed that special counsel Robert Mueller is in fact personally assisting in preparing the report for public consumption. This detail effectively takes the wind of out of the sails of anyone hoping that Barr massively misconstrued Mueller's findings in his primary letter from last week."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ring-report-release-adds-to-barrs-credibility

 

Where is Mueller being held captive?

Shouldn't we be mounting a rescue attempt?

 

LOL, releasing to Congress would be a release to the public with the likes of leaky Schiff for brains.