Congress will see Barr's redacted version of the Mueller Report

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Trump's appointee, William Barr, will determine what Congress sees in the Mueller Report, according to Barr.

    The special counsel’s report on the investigation into Russia’s election interference will be made public by mid-April, Barr told lawmakers on Friday.

    “Everyone will soon be able to read it,” Barr wrote in a letter to the chairmen of the congressional judiciary committees.

    Prosecutors from the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and other law enforcement officials are scouring the report for sensitive information to black out before releasing it, including secret grand jury testimony, classified materials and information about other continuing federal investigations, Barr wrote.

    Many are weary of hearing what Barr has to say about Robert S. Mueller III and the Mueller Report. They would like to hear what Mueller has to say about Mueller and the Mueller report.

    Why? Because Barr is a bit biased when it comes to the Mueller Report. Barr authored a memo in June 2018. saying he thought the Mueller investigation was "fatally misconceived."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/bill-barr-comey-obstruction/index.html

    In addition, Barr is a strong believer in the unitary executive. According to the unitary executive theory, since the Constitution assigns the president all of “the executive power”, he can set aside laws that attempt to limit his power over national security. This is an enormous power: critics charge that it effectively places the president above the law.

    It is for these two reasons that Trump choose Barr in the first place. This is the man who will determine what Congress sees if Barr gets his way. The Democrats obviously are not enthused with the idea.

    Of particular interest to the Democrats is Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), which Barr says will be used in the redaction process. In essence, 6(e) says that if the prosecutor is not going to charge a person with a crime, the DOJ is prohibited from divulging evidence concerning that individual. Since the DOJ has another rule -- a sitting President cannot be charged with a crime -- it is certainly possible that evidentiary evidence against the President will be excluded in Barr's version of the report to Congress.
     
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    Might as well get your predicted argument ready.

    "Well we saw the report but now we need to know was redacted".

    I swear, you guys are so predictable it doesn't even take any effort to know what you will do next.
     
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    Of course, Congress, particularly the House, wants to see the unredacted report. They don't want to see Barr's version of the report.

    Yes, that reaction is quite predictable. Pay extra attention to the last para.

    There is a reason why the White House is allowing Barr to act as Trump's surrogate in the area of executive privilege. Barr is a strong advocate for the unitary executive and he takes to heart the DOJ rule: to wit, a sitting President cannot be indicted.

    If you thought this was over, you are only kidding yourself.
     
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    You are forgetting that Mueller himself, who has access to all of this, found nothing to charge Trump on.

    Are you really hoping that a bunch of untrained people in congress can find something that he missed?

    He had an open mandate to charge Trump on anything even remotely related to this so there will be nothing in his report, NOTHING, that you will be able to use.

    Unless you are saying he was somehow incompetent or Trump got to him or something.

    And believe me, Barr is going to dot his i's and cross his t's here. I think he is the last person that is going to be playing politics right now when the democrats are looking for someone's head to take off.

    Everything will be strictly by the book with him.
     
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    Given the results Mueller reached, Barr was correct when he said the investigation was fatally misconceived.

    But everyone outside the Progressive New Democratic Party tent understands exactly what is being planned. As soon as the legally mandated redactions are put in place, the screaming about coverup, etc., will begin.

    It's already started, but they think it's smarter to wait. After all, this is about a coup, and the 2020 election. It's not about the law, or anything else.
     
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    It's all over but the shouting.
     
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    And wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Lord knows, there's been a rash of that already. :grin:
     
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    The best you can hope for is that it goes to the courts which means a conservative supreme court quite possibly with an additional Trump appointee gets to decide.
     
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    Libs will never see the redacted parts.
     
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    The fat lady hasn’t sung but the fat man sure is dancing. The letter today kinda looks like a moon-walk away from his first-white wash-letter. The court will have to step in before Congress gets the Mueller report and this better happen soon because we’ll loose our cookies watching this dancing Barr.
     
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    Then they’ll call Barr to testify, they’ll cling on another nothingburger then Trump will win re election and if you ask the democrats it won’t be fair because kindergartens and foreign nationals didn’t get to vote.
     
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    Your forgetting the main reason why Barr is able to do all that...... he’s the ag.

    Had Democrats won elections in the senate they could’ve stop him but alas they didn’t.
     
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    I think Nancy is smarter and more patient than that
     
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    Everything will strictly be by the book and they will still likely subponea the AG, or try to do something to him. It's clear that this has reached the point of open rebellion against the United States Federal Government, and at some point Trump's going to have to take charge of that.
     
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    Legal precedent doesn’t favor Barr. Congress will get the full report. He’s simply trying to buy time. It’s the Republican way: try and keep information locked away hoping people won’t notice they’re full of it. You’d figure the “completely exonerated” President would Xeroxing the report himself and handing a copy to each and everyone one of us.
     
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    There is absolutely NO justification for giving the House Intelligence committee less than the absolute full report.

    There isn't any issue of clearance, for example.
     
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    There is no precedent for AG denying information the House Intel committee is directly requesting.
     
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    “Denying”......... you mean following existing laws
     
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    My understanding is that there is grand Jury testimony that by law has to remain secret, and I would think only the house and senate committees that oversee the CIA should see the portion that details foreign intelligence. The the southern district of New York who is investigating Trump's campaign will want what they know redacted also.
     
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    Barr sent letters to Nadler & Graham yesterday. Barr says he and Mueller are "working hand in glove" in preparing the report for release. Mueller before composing the unredacted final report, reviewed ALL of the grand jury testimony. Nadler's signalling that Mueller's investigation and his summations are flawed? Mueller's biased, incompetent ... or both? Took 3 yrs for (D)'s to conclude the $25 million dollar investigation was a waste of everyones time? That's the most absurd insinuation yet. Nadler is a jackass.
     
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    Everyone saw this goalpost move. Sorry you are not entitled to classified material.
     
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    The left hates mueller now that the report is out
     
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    This is all too comical but is does give the malcontents something to continue their consumption of Pepto-Bismol.
     
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    You still don't get it. Do you have reading comprehension problem or are you just playing dumb?

    We have not heard from Mueller. We have not seen the Mueller Report. Everything we know about the Mueller Report is coming from Trump's appointee.

    Barr advocates for the unitary executive, wrote in 2018 the Mueller Report was "fatally misconceived," and has said he will redact portions of the report that are damaging to persons not charged with crime. That includes Trump!
     
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    The dems will claim a cover-up when they see the redacted report and demand to see the un-redacted report. Then they will see the complete un-redacted report and claim it's a doctored copy. Based on the last two years there is reason to believe this loony behavior by the dems will go on for another 6 years. Just hating Trump and accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians is now like a cottage industry and keeps many in the spotlight. The media, the TV alphabets, could clear this up in 2 weeks with good investigating and reporting just the facts each night. But they fall into the category of hating Trump and will probably continue with the fake news and propaganda while they keep bringing back on TV the loony dems.
     
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