Congress will see Barr's redacted version of the Mueller Report

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love how the party of Benghazi-gate and birtherism has the nerve to call the dems paranoid.

    So much so that I'm going to make a thread about that.
     
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  2. Sandy Shanks

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    Well, yeah, duh. That is beside the point.

    Why did you try to change the subject?

    Why did you evade post 51? Can't answer my simple requests?

    Why did you evade every single issue in this thread?

    Well, you are no different than other Trump supporters. Evading reality is their thing. Mostly they like to evade Trump.
     
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    Who says they are paranoid?

    They are just desperate.

    I don't think democrats are smart enough to ever be paranoid about something, it's all politics with them because they don't actually care enough about anything to be paranoid about losing it.
     
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    According to Barr. We haven't heard from Mueller.
     
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    The gate issue. Due to a few important items.
    1. The lie by the Obama team. All of them lied.
    2. The lie it was a movie.
    3. The clear "do not give a damn" attitude over the death of the Ambassador. "What difference does it make?"

    Birther issue.

    Started by Democrats
    Taken to the Supreme Court by Democrats

    Trump was still a regular citizen
     
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    One of the earlier links said Mueller was helping Barr.
     
  7. Robert

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    Were I still a loyal Democrat, my paranoia would be that people like Pelosi and Schumer and BS crazy Adam Schiff would be why they lose in 2020. They run the risk of losing the house then as well. Holding the house is like holding onto snot. It just is not predictable.
     
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    I will skip the daily twaddle to say this to you Sandy.

    It is possible that you will see a more complete report from Barr than from Mueller.

    Mueller knows the law. Mueller may err on the side of caution and black out more. Mueller would protect the grand jury.Mueller will protect the security of America. Barr could be a people pleaser and take his cue from Trump who told him to release all of it.
     
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    I do not think the house intel committee ever got the full scope of fast and furious.

     
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    Except it isn't happening that way, and whether Peolsi can reign in the crazies on her side of the aisle is obviously debatable. But I don't think you can make that stick especially if Mueller after all your hero worship over the last 20 months supports Barr when the testimonies happen before both houses.
     
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    Well, DUH! Barr says he will follow the law and DOJ rules, and that seems to make you mad.

    Do you know that Mueller can release his own copy of his own report, still according to the law and DOJ rules? Probably not...... and probably don't much care.
     
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    I don't know about precedent but the law and long-standing (many decades) DOJ rules is what Barr is following and what Mueller also has to follow.

    Did the Democrats hijack "the Republican way" when they screamed bloody murder when the Republicans wanted the FISA warrant information released?
     
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    Eric Holder set the precedent in 2012. And he withheld information that the House was legally and procedurally entitled to
     
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    When you have to edit my reply, you've confirmed an intellectual vacancy that is likely never to be overcome.

    Explain why nobody on the Mueller Team, including Mueller himself, is complaining about what Barr described this way:

    "After reviewing the Special Counsel’s final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I concluded I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."
    The more you write and post, the more you prove about that which you likely didn't intend to.
     
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    Hopeless, sorry. It would be illegal for Barr to release an unredacted report. The swamp know that.

    Of course. It avoids the obvious attacks that would arise from the left if the white house were involved in it. Common sense.

    The left is far too invested in the collusion lie to get over it. They will defend it to the death or at least to a lost election. I'm not kidding myself. I'm looking forward to the entertainment.
     
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    That's great. In the meantime stop trying to change the subject and deal with the issues of this thread ... if you can. For example:

    Members of Congress are entrusted with top secret military intelligence. They are entrusted with the most important information regarding our nation's security. They are responsible for funding all military operations and projects throughout the world. They need top secret intelligence so they can do their jobs.

    Barr is telling Congress that there are matters within the Mueller Report that are too sensitive for their eyes?

    I need help from Trump's supporters. Please tell me why our representatives in Congress are getting Barr's revised version of the Mueller Report. Please tell me why our representatives, who see the most sacred of intelligence, cannot see the entire Mueller Report.

    If you answer, they should not, please explain what Barr is trying to hide from our representatives.
     
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    The completely exonerated President has already said he is OK with whole report being released, but the AG has to follow department rules and regulations on what can and cannot be released.

    If you believe Hillary and the Democrats have not kept information locked away from the public, then you've had your head in the sand for the last 30 years. What Barr is doing is following the letter of the law, which is far different from the long history of obfuscation the Democratic Party and crooked Hillary have engaged in.

    The entire nation should be thankful that this matter is in the hands of William Barr, and not in the hands of the pencil necks, shills, and demagogues that make up the Democratic party.
     
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    It's called the law, laws Congress passed. You don't like them then petition Congress to change them.

    § 600.9 Notification and reports by the Attorney General.
    (a) The Attorney General will notify the Chairman and Ranking Minority Member of the Judiciary Committees of each House of Congress, with an explanation for each action -

    (1) Upon appointing a Special Counsel;

    (2) Upon removing any Special Counsel; and

    (3) Upon conclusion of the Special Counsels investigation, including, to the extent consistent with applicable law, a description and explanation of instances (if any) in which the Attorney General concluded that a proposed action by a Special Counsel was so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued.

    (b) The notification requirement in paragraph (a)(1) of this section may be tolled by the Attorney General upon a finding that legitimate investigative or privacy concerns require confidentiality. At such time as confidentiality is no longer needed, the notification will be provided.

    (c) The Attorney General may determine that public release of these reports would be in the public interest, to the extent that release would comply with applicable legal restrictions. All other releases of information by any Department of Justice employee, including the Special Counsel and staff, concerning matters handled by Special Counsels shall be governed by the generally applicable Departmental guidelines concerning public comment with respect to any criminal investigation, and relevant law.
     
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    I don't accept this "tit for tat" version of interpreting the law.
     
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    It is a crime to release a good deal of what's in the report. Barr is not going to break the law because as soon as he does, socialists will want him indicted. There are plenty of Obama judges around who will rule for immediate release like they have ruled to take over the defense department, immigration and just about every function of the federal government. That's what socialists do. Just wait 'til Monday or Tuesday.
     
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    Actually this is not true. Congress has routinely approved budgets for black projects and black operations for the U.S. military that they have never been briefed regarding the details of.
     
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    ??

    I keep pointing out that what I'm saying is that there is no justification for denying the request for the Mueller report by the House Intelligence oversight committee.

    Your comment on socialism and Obama is REALLY weird!
     
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    Are you kiding me? Schiff is the most prolific leaker in Washington. If he gets hold of the report, there will not be a witness that will be safe from his leaks. In fact, I hear there is about to be an investigation of Schiff and CNN. It appears he has a habit of leaving meetings in which classified information is discussed and minutes later classified information is reported by CNN.

    Nadler is another. He's is owned by Ezra Friedlander, an asset of Iran through their ties with Qatar. All you need to do is view this:

    Rep. Jerrold Nadler - New York District 10
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    Vendor/Recipient


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    Friedlander Group

    $25,000

    25



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    Rep. Jerrold Nadler - New York District 10
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    $17,000

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    Rep. Jerrold Nadler - New York District 10
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    $24,000

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    Rep. Jerrold Nadler - New York District 08
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    $24,000

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    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/expenditures?cid=N00000939&cycle=2012

    https://dusiznies.blogspot.com/2018/10/ezra-friedlander-hired-by-extremist.html

    The following is via :Al-Arabiya ( Al Arabiya is a Saudi-owned pan-Arab television news channel broadcast in Modern Standard Arabic. The channel is based in Dubai and is regarded as a competitor to Al Jazeera. )

    Wednesday, October 17, 2018
    The Qatari government urgently dispatched several individuals to the United States two weeks ago.

    Among them was Hassan Ali bin Ali, an important Qatari regime insider and businessman.

    Bin Ali is believed to have met with several American and non-American media personalities.

    This information, corroborated by an insider source speaking to Al Arabiya English on condition of anonymity, revealed that these media meetings were so important to Bin Ali, that he “hastily canceled pre-scheduled meetings with the staff of the US House Foreign Affairs Committee.”

    A congressional source told Al Arabiya English, on condition of anonymity, that Bin Ali had hired the New York City lobbying firm Friedlander Group, founded by Ezra Friedlander, to mend the bilateral relations between Qatar and the United States.

    A Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) application submitted by Ezra Friedlander had listed Bin Ali as a foreign principal hiring the Friedlander Group for $50,000 per quarter, according to US government records.

    The duties of the Friedlander group are to arrange meetings with Congressional members to discuss bi-lateral relations between the United States and countries across the Middle East and ways to achieve peace and regional stability.

    A luncheon or reception would be hosted every six months in Congress; once in the Senate and the another in the House to allow members of both chambers to meet Bin Ali in a social setting.

    Congressional staff, Jewish leaders, and diplomats would be encouraged to participate to discuss relevant legislative issues that Congress is working on.

    Hassan Ali bin Ali is well known by his ties with Tehran. He enjoys close business and personal relations with Iranian parties.

    An outside source who works closely with members of the House Foreign Relations Committee told Al Arabiya English that Bin Ali had, in fact, been a front for the Qataris for a number of years.

    He’s the one who whitewashes the whitewashers of the Qatari regime. Not only in the United States but all over the whole world,” he said.

    Foreign Agent Application:

    Qatar

    https://efile.fara.gov/docs/6097-Exhibit-AB-20181004-8.pdf

    Russia / Ukraine

    https://efile.fara.gov/docs/6097-Exhibit-AB-20181211-9.pdf

    You can search for all the documents you'd like at the DOJ website

    https://efile.fara.gov/pls/apex/f?p=135:10:17286373216250::NO::P10_DOCTYPE:ALL
     
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    Oh, good lord.

    Barr can't deny information on the premise that the House Intelligence committee might do something that is illegal.
     
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    He can follow the law and redact the sensitive information that could hurt innocent witnesses until an Obama judge changes the law. The law is the law until an Obama judge rules against Congress and the sitting President who signed it.
     

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