DeSantis Authoritarian "Don't say Gay" ban.

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Not that. They are afraid the schools will turn their sons into girls and their daughters into boys.
     
  2. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to democracy. Ignorant rubes get to vote just as the hautily enlightened elite do. Perhaps you would like to change that?
     
  3. Cybred

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    Nope, nothing peverted.
     
  4. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    BY THE POWER OF SCHOOL ALL WILL BE TRANSFORMED.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    Could you post the part of the law about that?
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I would. Low information voters, and those taking advantage of their ignorance, are an enormous problem.
     
  7. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    What would you like to do. Mao used re-education camps.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See post #101.
     
  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Realistically, there's nothing to be done. In a perfect world voters would educate themselves using a variety of sources. This, so they don't get fooled by the pandering, emotionally manipulative language in the bill's preamble directed at parents.
     
  10. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    I like to think I am well informed and I like this bill. Perhaps these voters are not so ignorant after all but just have different values and experiences than you do. Or maybe it is you who should be educated and reject the emotionally manipulative language.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've read the emotionally manipulative, pandering language. I wasn't manipulated. Hence my opposition to the bill.
    It's written in a way to both appeal to and frighten parents. Convincing them they lack the control they already had. Sorry to be redundant, I've said this in other threads, the bill is a solution in search of a problem..........unless the problem is the lack of a popular Repub agenda designed to address the many problems we face.
    BTW, this bill is being copied all over Repub controlled states for the same reason it was passed in FL. To agitate the base, play to their prejudices, and get them to the polls.
    If you were looking for a bill to effectively address sexual predators, the FL isn't it.
     
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  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They ARE! Only NOW is a homophobe like DeSantis making it illegal. I mean, not as part of the curriculum. But, until now, any moderately competent teacher would explain to children who may be questioning or harassing (maybe even bullying) a classmate because they have two moms or two dads, that that's perfectly normal; and that they love each other just the same as a family with a mom and a dad.

    Got it? This law tells teachers they can be sued if they stop the harassment or comfort the victim by explaining this obvious (to anybody but homophobes) fact.

    Huh? Why would a third grader have any problem conceptualizing evolution? I'm sure conceptualizing creationism might be a bit more of a task. Especially if it conflicts with his other religious beliefs. But this is one of the reasons they don't teach religion in schools.

    Or were you just trying to change the subject?
     
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    So you're making my point that this is a homophobe bill.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  14. Pycckia

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    Surely you are happy voter participation will increase.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    WHAT views? You mean that there can be just as much love in homosexual families as there is in heterosexual families? Why are you so afraid of saying it? Is it because you understand that's homophobic?
     
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    I just quoted it.
     
  17. Pycckia

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    There shouldn't be any homosexual families.
     
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    Sorry there were no excerpts from the law in that post.

    Try again.
     
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    Stop making sense. I never knew about sex until puberty. But I learned math and could read at high school level. Maybe teachers could focus on that for a change.
     
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    No it's an anti pedophile bill.
     
  21. Pycckia

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    Here is one source parents might use to educate themselves:


    One lesson plan, "Purple, Pink and Blue," instructs teachers to talk to their first graders about gender identity, and its first objective is to have the students be able to define "gender, gender identity and gender role stereotypes."

    The lesson’s second objective is to have students name "at least two things they’ve been taught about gender role stereotypes and how those things may limit people of all genders."

    "Gender identity is that feeling of knowing your gender. You might feel like you are a boy, you might feel like you are a girl," the lesson plan states. "You might feel like you’re a boy even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘girl’ parts. You might feel like you’re a girl even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘boy’ parts.


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-jersey-second-graders-learn-gender-identity-alarming-parents
     
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    There is no "don't say gay" bill. There's no bill titled that that language doesn't show up in any bill this is fake.

    You quoted an anti-grooming bill. Why are you against bills forbidding grooming of children?
     
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    Why?
     
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    You are completely confusing curriculum teaching with personal advice.
     
  25. Golem

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    There is no bill titled "Obamacare" either. And yet, Obamacare EXISTS. You acting as if the homophobic bill didn't exist won't make it go away.

    That's sick! What the hell is going on in the mind of right-wingers?
     

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