Did enough Sanders supporters vote for Trump to cost Clinton the election?

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  1. Tim15856

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    It goes both ways. I would have voted for Perot but didn't waste my time, but I did vote 3rd party instead of voting for McCain.
     
  2. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia tiled the election through the manipulation of enough American minds to deny Clinton votes in the EC....they have spent decades perfecting this technique and it was/is effective as noted by yourself.
     
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    A theory that cannot be proved objectively.
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you aware of the recent indictments?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...I hope that they are enjoying the consequences.
    It takes a very stupid and immature person to cut off their nose just to spite their face.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am. And?
     
  8. tecoyah

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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Yes they did rig the election for hillary.

    Inside Hillary Clinton’s secret takeover of the Democratic National Committee

    I had to keep my promise to Bernie. I was in agony as I dialed him. Keeping this secret was against everything that I stood for, all that I valued as a woman and as a public servant.

    “Hello, senator. I’ve completed my review of the DNC and I did find the cancer,” I said. “But I will not kill the patient.”

    I discussed the fundraising agreement that each of the candidates had signed. Bernie was familiar with it, but he and his staff ignored it. They had their own way of raising money through small donations. I described how Hillary’s campaign had taken it another step.

    I told Bernie I had found Hillary’s Joint Fundraising Agreement. I explained that the cancer was that she had exerted this control of the party long before she became its nominee. Had I known this, I never would have accepted the interim chair position, but here we were with only weeks before the election.

    Bernie took this stoically. He did not yell or express outrage. Instead he asked me what I thought Hillary’s chances were. The polls were unanimous in her winning but what, he wanted to know, was my own assessment?

    I had to be frank with him. I did not trust the polls, I said. I told him I had visited states around the country and I found a lack of enthusiasm for her everywhere. I was concerned about the Obama coalition and about millennials.
     
  11. squidward

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    Didn't your mommy teach you to be a man and take responsibility for your failures?
     
  12. squidward

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    Yeah, the ten people at her rallies proved her popularity.

    DNC idiot's were too stupid to run a viable candidate
     
  13. flyboy56

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    At trying to influence the election. But there is still no proof they actually persuaded voters to vote for Trump. There's more proof the DNC did influence voters to vote for Clinton over the other candidates. How do you feel about that?
     
  14. tecoyah

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    …..uh....The DNC is SUPPOSED to get people to vote for their candidate....that is why they even exist and because they are an American Political Entity it is not only legal but expected. Intent is the reason for indictment and proof is found in the desired questioning and investigation. Also...unless a truth serum is given to every voter in the United States you would not accept any proof.
     
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    She was paid millions? Really. and no Republican said anything about it till years later. Why did she have an unsecured server? I don't know, please educate me.
     
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    One of your many problems is you don't know what is real and imaginary.
     
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    and yet she still got more votes then he did. What is your point.
     
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    There is only two reason for her to be in total violation of federal law by using that unsecured server for handling classified documents. 1st she is either a complete idiot, lacking the sense to be a dogcatcher let alone president of the US or alternatively plausible deniability...
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    How pathetic that you find an attack on our democracy entertaining. How pathetic that because a clown can have a full house rally (even years after the election) shows he was the better candidate yet still got less votes. Millions of less votes. Whatever you are basing your view on I can tell you it has little in common with reality.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    If all you hear is negative information about a candidate, you'll be moved to vote for the other candidate. A campaign of disinformation did the job.
     
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    And yet, she was not the only one that used different servers yet the right only has a problem with her. What classified information was stolen and how was it used? You have a problem with that but not that your boy meets with Russians with no one else in the room. Talk about plausible deniability.....
    Of course, we are talking about someone that can't seem to remember what they said in the previous minute.
     
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    Not all Sanders supporters were in it for the socialism and progressivism. Some just wanted a left-leaning political outsider. When Sanders was out, Trump was still another political outsider. I could see 5-10% switching.

    FTR I'm about as hard core of a Trump supporter as there is, but I woulda voted Sanders over Cruz or Bush had it gone that way just to get the presidency away from the establishment for a term.
     
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    what attack on our democracy? What I find pathetic is that people are dumb enough to spread democrat propaganda without so much as one tiniest shred of evidence. Show me one tiny shred of evidence russia changed one sine vote.
     
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    She spent 1 billion dollars. And with the MSM on her side, every thing in the media about Trump was negative.
    She couldn't beat rookie Obama. Then she couldn't beat a complete novice who never ran for office before. And you're the one not in touch with reality. Every president except 1, was elected by the Electoral College. The popular vote just determines how the Electoral votes will be cast. The only ones she could beat is Jack Daniels and Capt. Morgan.
     
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    Congratulations are in order for not winning!
     

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