Documented: Goal of EPA to villify and strke fear about oil companies

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    EPA Official's 'Philosophy' On Oil Companies: 'Crucify Them' - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens

    American progressive leftists [collectivists] have inflitrated the "environmental movement" for the expressed purpose of breaking the back of capitalism.

    Naturally, they would gravitate towards powerful positions writing and enforcing government policy....

    Couple this EPA administrator's sentiments with Obama Energy Secretary Steven Chu's "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe" comment....and the Snakehead himself pimping his own "plan" to "necessarily skyrocket" electricity costs.....

    and it's quite easy to see that the biggest lie ever told by modern Democrats, Obama and his administration [progressive leftists, all]....

    is that they "champion the poor and middle class"...

    such is an utter impossibility....
    when their energy agenda will, with out a doubt, ultimately result in the poor's meager disposable / discretionary income being devoured by necessity expenditures.

    Watch video here: http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-banni...-companies-crucify-them-just-romans-crucified
     
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    Do you know what Biphenol A is? If you have a wife, daughter, or mother you should. It is one of the main reasons why I really don't care how many oil companies get crucified. I don't. If you want to call me a leftist...that's fine. I really don't. We have to move not just to renewable but to clean energy, healthy products, etc.

    It's not gas or oil use in cars that bothers me. It's the plastics. It's everywhere in everything and it's dangerous. Because it's cheaper and because companies can make more money using plastic bottles, plastic containers, plastic inside cans...they do. Regardless of how many medical studies and scientific studies...oh and evidence based studies that show how dangerous this is...they will do it.

    Big businesses don't care about your children, they care about shareholders. They are in large part immoral, so I don't feel particularly inclined to care about them.
     
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    I would perhaps respect your position more, if you were equally outraged about Big Fed making TWICE the "profits" off of oil sales...

    than Big Oil and their shareholders do.
     
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    Ohhhh, I'm always outraged by the Federal government. That should go without saying.
     
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    Get your head out of your backside.

    The government is "immoral" for gouging the end user...

    Government made more profit on gasoline than ExxonMobil in 3Q
     
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    tru dat.

    It's not unlike Big Fed / state taxes on smokes.....the bereaucrats demonize, ostracize and corral the addicted smoker into the darkest, dankest, most distant corners of society...if not outright ban the activity altogether...


    All while being addicted themselves to the Pigovian revenue stream.
     
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    [video=youtube;ze3GB_b7Nuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3GB_b7Nuo&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    We should fire a whole lot of authoritarian bureaucrats. These hard core leftists have infiltrated our government and are making policy where they have no business.

    It's time to cut a whole lot of government scumbags. The Obama's latest attacks are on the Energy industry, farms, and it's citizens.
     
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    Champion or Chump of the poor. Obama and the Democrats want to raise taxes on the poorest among us from 10% to 15%.
     
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    Am I suppose to feel bad for oil companies?
     
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    No..you should feel bad for the poor, uneducated mimimum wagers...

    who...

    when they finally pack up their brood, and move out of their mother's heated and cooled basement, and into their own rented hovel...

    will...

    everytime they pay their utility bill, buy their own diesel fueled semi truck delivered groceries, and fill up their rusted out, uninsured, 1987 Impala...

    realize just how much punitive, hyper-regulated, eco-marxist energy policies cut into their already meager paycheck...

    to wit, they'll immediately apply for, and become dependent on Welfare and Foodstamps and Rent Subsidies and Utilities Subsidies....

    forever pimped, issued, expanded and protected with class warfare narratives by big government progressive leftists....

    who only ask they continue voting for them....

    so they can remain in power to continue enacting and enforcing punitive, hyper-regulated, eco-marxist energy policies....

    and ultimately grind the engine that powers capitalism to a halt.

    Any more questions?
     
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    Take a look at this:

    [video=youtube;ze3GB_b7Nuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ze3GB_b7Nuo[/video]

    Yeah, I've heard of this guy...

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    Al Armendariz​

    Yeah, these guys who serve Obama's wishes have no hesitation in riding rough-shod over the American people. AND we pay their salaries. I've had enough of this tyranny, have you? America prefers fossil fuels, not expensive, unreliable "green energy".

    Vote Obama OUT in NOvember. We cannot afford another four years of his bullying, and butchering of our Constitution and Liberty.

    I swear, sometimes I think he's out to harm America on purpose.
     
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    OK Trinity, I'll help you out today and explain how these things work (and I work in heavily regulated industry.

    Companies know the laws and regulations, but complying with them costs money. The laws and regulations are there to protect you and your fellow American's.

    Companies in general only sort them selves out when they have negative audits, or when a competator has a negative audit. US government audit departments had their funding cut (during successive administrations), meaning they do not have the time or resources to inspect each company correctly. Under this under funded scenario, auditors hit a number of companies hard, their peer companies find out and correct their own issues (which they typically knew about all the time).

    If you want the practice to end, lobby your government to spend more money on the budgets of the auditors. Of course, tax payers ultimately pay this bill, but like I said, it's for your benefit.

    But you don't want to hear the truth, you simply want to go off on an anti-Obama whinge and propoganda thing.
     
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    Additionally, the BP disaster could have been avoided, with higher government regulation (such as we have in the EU - a higher standard for protection systems) and higher governance of the industry.

    What do you want? Another BP style incident or companies to obey the law and respect the country that they operate in?
     
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    Companies know the laws and regulations, but complying with them costs money. The laws and regulations are there to protect you and your fellow American's.

    Companies in general only sort them selves out when they have negative audits, or when a competator has a negative audit. US government audit departments had their funding cut (during successive administrations), meaning they do not have the time or resources to inspect each company correctly. Under this under funded scenario, auditors hit a number of companies hard, their peer companies find out and correct their own issues (which they typically knew about all the time).

    If you want the practice to end, lobby your government to spend more money on the budgets of the auditors. Of course, tax payers ultimately pay this bill, but like I said, it's for your benefit.

    But you don't want to hear the truth, you simply want to go off on an anti-Obama whinge and propoganda thing.
     
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    What does a foreigner know about oil production in America?

    Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing.

    We the people do not see the oil companies as public enemies.

    We see them as producers of a vitally needed energy source that heats and cools our homes.

    So we don't want crazy wacko's at the EPA treating them like criminals.
     
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    Chances are this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is a civil servant rather than a political appointee.

    The trouble with the EPA and the reason that every person working there should be downsized is that it is infested with environmentalist wackos just like Armendariz.
     
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    How about Obama? Does he outrage you?


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    Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not sure that your attitude toward the oil companies is rational.

    After all they just produce the oil while chemical companies make the plastics that most Americans appreciate but you seem to hate.

    The environmentalist wackos at the EPA love to ban things.

    Why haven't they just banned Biphenol A if it's so bad?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

     
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    Oops, it looks like I was wrong about that.

    It turns out that Armendariz is a political appointee and and Obama wacko through and through.
     
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    Here's a thought Mac, why don't you break the habit of a lifetime and address the points made by another poster?

    Do you think that the US somehow audits companies differently to other countries? Do you think that news of the US government defunding government agencies doesn't find its way onto the WORLD Wide Web? Hell, do you even understand the WWW?

    Either address points, get off the thread or get reported for trolling. I'd rather the first, but either of the latter two will suffice.
     
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    Why does the American Right not want companies to follow regulations, yet is so keen to arrest and incarcerate individual citizens who break the law?

    The law is there. Comply with it, or the auditors are going to write you up for it.

    It's not difficult.
     
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    That BP right passed safety inspections..... What you do not understand is you can have as many "regulations" as you want as long as the Corporations own the employees at the EPA..... What you see is selective enforcement. An example is google GE waivers and go from there ;)
     
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    If you were an American and had any standing whatsoever in this issue I would.

    But foreign voyeurs who are little more than illegal aliens on the Internet are not part of the conversation.
     

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