Donald Trump Will Not Release Tax Returns, White House Adviser Says

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump is no longer a business person, he is president of the United States of America.
    Honestly, if Obama had refused to release his tax returns in the same manner as Trump who on the right would seriously be saying, "you know, this is totally ok".

    I don't like Obama or Trump - but the leeway that both sides give their candidate is why this country is in the shape it is.

    Every nation gets the government it deserves. -Joseph de Maistre
     
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    Okay I thought it might be that. I think it was you who also somewhere recently referred to Trump as Truman
     
  3. ararmer1919

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    Good for him
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    Here's my position on Trump's tax returns: The FBI surely has them, right? If the FBI has them, couldn't the FBI disclose it? Wouldn't the FBI do so if it found something worth investigating?(This is all going to come back to Comey, but let's forget that for now. Let's assume that most agents in the field are neutral and professionals at their job.)

    Just as I want to trust in the federal government, I'm also going to trust that if there were "something there" in Trump's taxes, he would've been long indicted before he even became President. Also, there's something else(that might be scary and nefarious.) What if Trump won't release his tax returns, because he didn't file any?

    I don't mean in the corporate, cayman islands way. I mean in the 'I have no money' way. Trump's entire portfolio might be his assets, but not real cash. If I'm right about that, it also explains why his campaign funding was in the toilet compared to the others.
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, I had to laugh about all the Republican proclaiming Obama does nothing but lie, now Trump is president it seems the Democrats are doing the same thing. I suppose one takes all these political ploys very seriously as if your a Democrat, this proves Trump is nothing more than a natural born liar, just like Obama was one for the Republicans.

    Perhaps Obama's lies, if that is what one wants to call them was much more serious as they effected national policy and peoples lives. Trump's lie on tax returns does nothing of that except prove what a scumbag he is to all who believed he was a scumbag to begin with.

    Politicians lie, governments lie. Some will call that false truths, taking things out of context, breaking campaign promises, and a thousands other names. I want to see how the man governs, that is what is important to me. Not tax returns. For me lying about national policy or legislation is much more important than releasing or not of one's tax returns. But it really didn't bother me any when Obama said what he did. Those in favor of certain legislation lie, exaggerate to the hilt as do those who oppose. In the end all they are doing is feeding the populace a bunch of propaganda from their political views.
     
  6. perotista

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    I think about the only president that came close to being a man of his word was Jimmy Carter. All the rest lied through their teeth. There are very few politicians that are men of their word, if they were, chances are they would never be elected. No one cares about Trump's tax returns except those adamantly against him. His loyal opposition.

    Let's see how he governs, what he does and doesn't do. I suspect that like with Obama, I'll be for somethings and against somethings. I suspect Republicans will be 100% for whatever he does and Democrats will be 100% against everything he does. That includes good and bad, things good for the nation and bad for the nations. Things good for the people and bad for the people as a whole. That doesn't matter to most Republicans and Democrats, just being against him regardless will be close to all Democrats and defending him, being for him will be most Republicans.

    The R and the D lately has become more important than what is good or bad for this country, it is call polarization. I don't have the faintest idea if Trump will be good or bad for our nation. I suspect like most presidents, some of the things he does will be for the good, some for the bad. But I will make my own conclusions, I'll not let a political party do that or base my conclusions on whether or not an R or a D is next to someone's name.
     
  7. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    I can name one US President that was disbarred for perjury. And he was not Donald Trump.
     
  8. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Despite the fact that your President refuses to be held to account for his; and you trust him to reduce yours? A little naive of you, perhaps?
    When will his supporters learn that the only thing Trump is interested in, and continues to be interested in, is Trump.
     
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    He isn't a business person any longer. He is your President, and as such cannot have any business dealings which could be construed as a conflict of interests, which is why his son is now dealing with the Trump empire. Releasing their financial history is what Presidents have done forever. Why should Trump be any different? Is he hiding something, perhaps? You tell me.
    Furthermore your corporate tax laws are quite clear on filing returns
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax_in_the_United_States#Tax_returns
    I can't believe I, a foreigner, am having to explain this to an American.
     
  10. Mandelus

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    Maybe they learn at the same time when they have learned that Obama was really born in the USA and not in Africa, as well that he is really Christian religion and not a hidden Muslim. But this is very unlikely to happen!
     
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    Good point, but not naive. I looked at it this way:
    1. The Dems (and Hillary) have a track record of increasing taxes and wasting my money.
    2. Trump doesn't have a track recored with my money, but is promising to reduce my taxes.

    Neither is a choice worth bragging about. But......I'll go with #2. He might not reduce my taxes but it seems unlikely he would burden me more than the Dems.

    In the meantime.......I'm told the IRS (especially Obama's IRS) has a track record of going after people on the right. If Trump has been breaking the law with his taxes, why hasn't the IRS charged him with a crime?
     
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    I'm not suggesting he has broken the law, but his adamant refusal to reveal his tax situation must be an attempt at hiding something he would prefer was not made public. Again, if he's clean he'll come clean. Except that he has now said he will not-despite repeated previous promises to do so. In my world liars don't get a second chance. He lies pathologically, but nobody on his side is bothered in the least-instead they leap to defend his lies!
     
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    We on the Right must be honest enough to say that he never, ever should have said that he would release his tax returns. It's really that simple!

    Personally, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about his tax returns. It's really that simple!

    BUT, in saying he will do something, and then not doing it he makes himself look like just another damned politician who lies. We've just had EIGHT LONG, STINKING YEARS of that kind of deceitful (*)(*)(*)(*) from ex-prez Obummer, and frankly, I'd be a LOT happier if President Trump would never make such stupid promises again! His taxes are his business, and he should KEEP them that way! He should have known that the hyperlibs, who hate his guts under even the best of circumstances, will absolutely FEAST on this for as long as they can "bounce" it into view. And the media will surely do that...!
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Good; exposing lies, hypocrisy and double-standards should surely be applauded, no? Especially if that person is the world leader.
     
  15. truth and justice

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    Is anyone actually accusing him of breaking the law with his taxes? But can you not see the possible conflicts of interest if Trump has investments abroad?
     
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    Might want to come up with something fresh, that dog did not hunt during the primary or the general so why would anyone except the brain dead think that suddenly people will give a crap now is beyond me
     
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    Good for him. It's none of your business.
     
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    Yeah but obama is a liberal so he gets a pass. Can you imagine the insults he would have gotten from the left if he would have been a black Republican?
     
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    So what are you waiting for? And don't forget to pass that message to all your pink panty wearing twatheads crying in the streets over Trump's win, too.

    Nothing is funnier than seeing a bunch of sniveling (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es in the streets crying and protesting for rights they already have.
     
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    That will be quite an accomplishment. LOL!!!
     
  21. Thirty6BelowZero

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    It's none of my business that he said he would do something, and now runs away form his previous statements? Hides behind Kellyanne "Alternative Facts" Conway?

    I mean this is not a mild change of position. This was a glaring lie on the part of the president. He said multiple times he would release them when the audit is complete, and it turns out he was lying. Lying. What part of the president of the United States lying his ass off in the first few days of being president is "none of my business"?
     
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    You didn't know he did? He has a golf course in Scotland for instance.
     
  24. snakestretcher

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    Quite the charmer, aren't you?
     
  25. yardmeat

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    I didn't give Obama a blank check and, despite the constant pleas from his supporters for a national safe space, I'm not giving Trump one either. He's done more than enough to prove he doesn't deserve it, he's managing to be even less transparent than Obama (which is a pretty big hurdle), and the hypocrisy he's brought out in his followers has lost its entertainment value.
     

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