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No they don't think criminals are actually going to registered guns have nothing to do with the criminals or criminal behavior crime at all. It has to do with legal owners that's what they want to stop.

The followers that get their opinion from news media they don't think. Leader says it's good there for it's good.

 

yep thats his end goal, he even slipped up and admitted it when he said that the gun laws are weak, and the next sentence the US is to tough on criminals..

 

I think a lot of these people hold these opinions because they bought into the idea that the left is enlightened and they want to be seen that way as well.

 

Being an SJW doesn’t require any intelligence whatsoever, it’s just a method for anti intellectuals to feel better about being controversial.

 

Your argument is textbook conspiracy theory. Nothing you're saying about the US government going nazi and genocide on you is something you can prove that will happen.

So you got no actual counter argument.

Uh no. The sentencing is harsh, while the law is weak as in cops got a hard time applying it on criminals, causing loads of criminals getting away with it.

 

Again... utter nonsense. You can not prove you dumb conspiracy.
I am regarding that you're conceding to my argument since you can't prove jack all.

You're only coming up with dumb conspiracy theories that you can't prove.
And when you get a solid argument back, you call it gibberish..... lol

 

do whatever mental gymnastics you have to.

If you believe this there's no reason to ever engage with me on the subject again.

But you don't really believe this you know better that's why you can't resist responding. I pluck at that doubt and it's like pulling a thread on a knit sweater.

 

Giving you a history lesson is not a conspiracy theory.. pointing out your plan and the nazis was the same is not a conspiracy theory..

Furthermore arnt you one of the ones saying that Trump was a modern day Hitler? You libs sure do like to contradict yourselves

So specifically what law are you suggesting that would be constitutional and actually target the criminals?

 

bla bla bla. You're not proving jack about your conspiracy theory.
So you're just conceding to my arguments, since I proved that most criminals get their weapons using strawman.

The laws prohibiting that are weak. Cops simply are not given any legal tools to stop it. While your idea of being tough when a criminal gets arrest after a violent crime, hasn't solved the issue that the US has a massive gun violence problem. A problem other western nations solved with tough gun laws. Tough gun laws that the majority of the US wants. The end.

 

I'm giving you a lesson in debating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
And you can't prove your argument -> so you lost the argument.

no. lol

Gun registration. And if you look at other western nations with tough gun laws... like France. They demand you get a mental and physical checkup every year at a doctor if you want to have a gun that can carry more than 3 bullets. You need to file it in every 3 years. So there is an idea to weed out the far right wingers obtaining weapons to commit hate crimes just like weed out Muslim extremists, and your random conspiracy theorist.

 

I don't have to you already know it's true look at all the existential angst you are displaying.

This is rather idiotic. It wouldn't be a tool today in law enforcement is criminals probably won't register their firearms. It will just be a tool to punish people who legally have guns. What would be the only use of it so that is the point of it.

You can believe this is about criminals all you want you might actually really believe that scam but it isn't it's about legal owners and going after them. That's why our national registry is for firearms is illegal.

 

I can very easily prove my argument because its a historical fact that gun registration turned into confiscation with the Nazis..

gun registration will not work because you have the constitutional right to not self incriminate so someone buying guns just for a straw purchase will not register them.. Demanding someone get tested for his mental state if they want to exercise his constitutional rights is also not constitutional sorry but your ideas are dead in the water. Any other ideas?

 

I'm still not seeing any proof of "Again got registration is strictly about confiscation."

There are around 290 million cars registered, and nobody is regarding that as being punished. So what you claim about gun registration is clearly nonsense.

 

The argument the US is going to be ruled by fascists is frankly utterly far fetched argument to claim to be against gun registration.
Hence this is just a dumb conspiracy theory you plant here. You might as well insert some argument about aliens from outer space.

There are about 290 million cars registered and it's not self incriminating.
Your claim is just BS.

 

again I don't need to prove anything you already know.

again you only have to register a car if you drive it on the public roadway.

It's not a compulsion of ownership so that's not a comparison.

You don't think that there's people who don't register their cars and just drive them on the roadway anyway?

I don't have to prove this reality you have to prove that that doesn't happen.

 

Again: not seeing any proof. I noted this so often, that it's safe to assume you can not and so are conceding.

You're making an irrelevant observation about what you can do ones you've registered your car.
Your point is that registration is about confiscation.
While the point is that the car registration proves it's not about confiscation.
I debunked the claim. And you can't prove your point, so you've conceded.

 

Yet again I don't need to prove anything. Every time you say this I'm going to respond with the same thing.

Feel free to assume whatever you want I don't care.

you're making an irrelevant analogy to a piece of property you don't have to register in order to own.

Yeah it's about roadways.

Gun registration is. Do you not understand the difference between cars and guns?

Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to believe you're nonsense.

 

Gun registrations have turned into gun confiscations in our history.. and gun confiscation was brought up by the presidential candidate so sorry I have proven my point just fine..

I said I wanted a law that would target criminals not law abiding citizens, you cant charge a car thief with failure to register his stolen car.. because that would be self incrimination so you cant charge him for that..

Just like you cant charge someone for failure to register a gun if he is a straw purchase buyer.. straw purchase buyers WONT REGISTER THE GUN AND THAT WOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL

Your idea ONLY targets law abiding citizens and NOT criminals

 

You just say this, because you can not prove jack all.

You just say this, because you can not prove jack all.

 

Your proof is about gun confiscation for weapons designed for a battlefield. lol
You got nothing.

I already countered this by proving that most guns are not stolen, but given by friends and family.
And gun registration is going to end this.[/QUOTE]

 

My proof is a constitutionally protected gun that was threatened to be confiscated and met with thunderous applause..

I'm against gun registration because its a road map to law abiding citizens who own guns and can be used against them for confiscation
This ia a very reasonable worry because there is a history of every dictator disarming is population before taking complete control and we literally had a presidential candidate threaten to do that

you didnt counter anything.. all you have done is shown you dont understand the law. You want to stop straw purchases.. and you think a gun registration will stop that. Here is the problem, only Law abiding citizens would have to legally follow that law. A criminal who is doing a straw purchase is NOT legally obligated to register that gun due to his constitutional rights to not self incriminate.

Gun registration laws can NOT legally target straw purchase criminals.. how are you not understanding this?

 

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if you really believed this you wouldn't need to keep stating it you're trying to convince yourself.

You're just saying this to convince yourself that your false beliefs are not false.

If you really believe her what you said and what I said didn't cause you any existential things the conversation would have been over yesterday.

I think it's funny to watch you argue with yourself

 

Repeating it over and over doesn't change a thing that
It remains so that gun registration isn't unconstitutional
So there is nothing wrong with it.

You're forgetting it takes 2 to tango in a strawman purchase.
Indeed. The criminal is not going to register that he got the gun. So the title is still on person used as a strawman. Say they found a registered gun at a murder. That's going to be a walk in the park for the cops to go to the registered owner, and bring him in for questioning and ask it how on earth it's gun ended up there. He needs to rattle out his murdering buddy or else the strawman is just flat out complicit.

And your current position is that a strawman can just be used with ease to arm terrorists, because you do not want guns used to be traced back to who owns them and lend it out. I do wonder if you support strawmen supporting terrorists, with this ridiculous idea that gun registration is unconstitutional. We all know it's not unconstitutional.

 

False believe? You're not able to prove your point! lol