Election Officials Nationwide Find No Voter Fraud --NYT

By the unreasonable standard you are imposing, no source is.

NYT is as good as any other of the major news source. MBFC gives it a good rating, no journal gets it right all the time.

Irregularities here and there, which exist for ALL elections, does not mean nor prove in any shape or form that there is any massive conspiracy by dems to steal the election, because that is what Trump is alleging. Moreover, he has been poisoning the well from the get go, with statements "if dems win, it is because they rigged the election", an astonishingly incompetent thing to say for a president, but things like that don't bother you at all.

 

13 court cases, zero wins.

Fail.

 

No backpedal: you have never given any reason that even you believe that Bezos is in China's pocket, other than 1) that his company, Amazon, does business w/ Chinese companies-- as has/does TRUMP-- which is typical for any large retailer in America, and 2) that liberals called Trump, "Putin's puppet," which has absolutely nothing to do with it.

And what started all this, was your impugning the credibility of The Washington Post, just because Bezos owns it, though he has kept a, "hands-off," policy w/ regard to this exemplary publication, possessor of a well-established reputation for integrity. You cite no editorials, no articles, no statements, no actions, no examples, not even any sketchy news outlets or websites corroborating any of your contentions. THAT is my objection, if you somehow missed that.

 

Great. I'm glad a judge JUST made that ruling.

Your cases say NOTHING about the courts or governors or local officials. The Constitution, and go read the state constitutions, assign the plenary role of directly how state elections for these offices to the state legislature, period it could not be clearer. And the SCOTUS said that the Gore v Bush and Alito just said so.
http://bluenc.com/content/scotus-plays-dictionary

Will probably end that way but that does not mitigate the fact that judges and state officials were unconstitutionally meddling in their states election and it does change the fact we have LOTS of reported irregularities especially having to do with the mass mailin voting and we need a FULL investigation not officials even before the canvassing is done proclaim there has been no fraud and Biden won because the networks say he did.

I think there is a very BIG chance the SCOTUS will take the Pennsylvania case and if they don't they are shirking their duty. I think Alito's ruling and letter set the stage for that and once and for all put an end to these unconstitutional acts.

And you seem to forget that it was Hillary Clinton who said Biden "should NEVER concede"



Gore fought for 37 days, calm down

 

Yea that would be real sad if a flood wiped them all out, what's your point? If the state legislature believes something needs to be done they can do it.

 

They were scrolling them on Hannity and Carlson last night and giving more details a few.

 

No we don't know because they are illegal ballots the PA courts can't change deadlines, cite me where they get the authority. Alito has already said courts you can't do this and they WILL be hearing the case, there last ruling was that it would not be expedited but will be adjudicated.

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
REPUBLICAN PARTY OF PENNSYLVANIA v.KATHY BOOCKVAR, SECRETARY OF PENNSYLVANIA, ETAL.
ON MOTION TO EXPEDITE CONSIDERATION OF THE PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI
No. 20–542. Decided [October 28, 2020]

" It would be highly desirable to issue a ruling on the con-stitutionality of the State Supreme Court’s decision before the election. That question has national importance, and there is a strong likelihood that the State Supreme Court decision violates the Federal Constitution. The provisions of the Federal Constitution conferring on state legislatures, not state courts, the authority to make rules governing fed-eral elections would be meaningless if a state court could override the rules adopted by the legislature simply by claiming that a state constitutional provision gave the courts the authority to make whatever rules it thought ap-propriate for the conduct of a fair election. See Art. I, §4, cl. 1; Art. II, §1, cl. 2."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-542_i3dj.pdf

This needs to be settled once and for all.

 

And see above.

 

https://law.justia.com/codes/pennsylvania/2016/title-42/chapter-7/section-726

But keep arguing that people who get their ballots cast by election day, but not delivered due to extraordinary election interference, is a good idea...

Entertaining at the very least...

 

I'm just not sure everybody can see the irony in that 3 day counting extension case.

1. The USPS was broken by design by DeJoy and Trump
2. The USPS told Pennsylvania that they were going to be unable to meet ballot delivery standards
3. The PA SCOTUS relied on that information when making their ruling, meaning it's likely that without it, there's no extension.

SNIP
In light of these unprecedented numbers and the near-certain delays that will occur in Boards processing the mail-in applications, we conclude that the timeline built into the Election Code cannot be met by the USPS’s current delivery standards, regardless of whether those delivery standards are due to recent changes in the USPS’s logistical procedures or whether the standards are consistent with what the General Assembly expected when it enacted Act 77.
ENDSNIP

They really can't even break anything effectively... If you are going to break something, it's probably best not to tell those being impacted by it up front so they can adjust..

 

Well, good luck in court.

Thousands. LOL. Have you worked out the logistics & cash needed to pull off thousands of dead people voting? Care to share how that gets pulled off when signatures have to be verified by one person from each party?

 

Nice research! I knew that had to be the case. You don't have separation of powers without checks and balances built in. LOL. Bluesguy would know this if it was a D doing this.

 

I've already stated:

Historically speaking, 'state legislature' insofar as SCOTUS constitutional interpretation, consists of the whole shebang, the state legislature, the state supreme court, the gov, as the high court has previously held that the word “legislature” in the Constitution doesn’t necessarily mean the literal legislature, but rather the state’s lawmaking process as a whole, as ruled by SCOTUS in Smiley v. Holm and Ohio ex rel. Davis v. Hildebrant.

and that a conservative court probably would not go along with that precedent.

Unless they want to establish a new precedent for future elections, which is possible, because the count of the late ballots won't affect the outcome of the election, they probably won't take the case, but we shall see.

And, by the way, Milton Friedman's premise is flawed. his big fan, Alan Greenspan, admitted it (not directly, but indirectly ).

 

And I wouldn't see that happening anyway. I don't believe the issue will be whether the PA SCOTUS had the ability to make that change. I suspect it will be if the USPS situation was serious/imminent enough to warrant making it, without perhaps involving the elected legislature...

Where they may have overstepped is in saying the law as written wouldn't be sufficient, based on the "normal" delivery standards of the USPS... that could be trouble, but I still have no problem with issuing the 3 day extension after the USPS notification.

 

I already refuted your two cites which say nothing about the courts and the state legislature being equal and have already cited Gore v Bush and Alito which only reinforces existing precident, election rules are set by the LEGISLATURE not the courts, not the governor, nor election officials.. The SCOTUS also just shut down a SecState saying she had no authority to usurp the rules as set by the State Legislature. The courts and other government officials have NO constitutional authority to change the rules of the elections PERIOD. Do you even know what plenary power means?

And no what Friedman said was and remains quite true.

 

That's their fault. They had plenty of time to submit the ballot and they can follow up to make sure it was received and if not take proper action. One reason I will never vote by mail and fortunately did not have mass mailin voting in my state and knew the results that night.

 

Well, on that we can agree, unless my state goes to all mail elections....

Yeah... Alabama... I'm sure that was a real nail-biter....

I knew the results of your election by 10am on September 1st...

 

And, it finally happened... complete break with reality...somebody in another thread made this prediction (which seems obvious in hindsight), but it's hysterical nonetheless...



He's just not very bright... And for those who cannot see that, well, forum rules prevent me from finishing that sentence...

 

It's a meaningless statement. Freedom is not absolute, it's always restricted. Even the constitution grants congress the right to tax, to regulate, to make laws. In other words, the argument is not about freedom at all, it's about laws and taxes you don't like.
You don't mind some laws, you don't like others, You don't mind some taxes, but you don't like others, but no law or tax is going to please everyone, and that is why it's a bullshit argument.

 

It remains quite true and you should heed it and it's not about pleasing anyone. You really want to live in a society where we have less freedoms but we are all equal?

 

We had some local that were. And we had NO voting problems, results all in that night and all you had then were your prognostications. I'm talking actual results, hard numbers.

 

I still say Doug Jones won by 200K votes... Heard that today during a press conference at Doug Jones Total Landscaping...

Didja see your new Senator show off his skills today??

3 branches of government?

Tuberville - "The House, The Senate and Executive"

President Elect for 30 days in 2000?

Tuberville - "Gore"

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/525913-gop-senator-elect-says-gore-was-president-elect-in-2000

He's a keeper!