Even More Bad News For The Right: White's Likely Below 50% Of Births By 2012

Surfer Joe · Apr 2, 2010

Consmike said: ↑

That is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*), as we all know, as people age, and mature, and they learn more, they go from democrat to republican.
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More anachronistic nonsense.

Voter base

Ideology
Since the 1890s, the Democratic Party has favored "liberal" positions (the term "liberal" in this sense describes social liberalism, not classical liberalism). In recent exit polls, the Democratic Party has had broad appeal across all socio-ethno-economic demographics.[13][14][15] The Democratic Party is currently the nation's largest party. In 2004, roughly 72 million (42.6%) Americans were registered Democrats, compared to 55 million (32.5%) Republicans and 42 million (24.8%) independents.[9]
Historically, the party has favored farmers, laborers, labor unions, and religious and ethnic minorities; it has opposed unregulated business and finance, and favored progressive income taxes. In foreign policy, internationalism (including interventionism) was a dominant theme from 1913 to the mid-1960s. In the 1930s, the party began advocating welfare spending programs targeted at the poor. The party had a pro-business wing, typified by Al Smith, and a Southern conservative wing that shrank after President Lyndon B. Johnson supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The major influences for liberalism were labor unions (which peaked in the 19361952 era), and the African American wing, which has steadily grown since the 1960s. Since the 1970s, environmentalism has been a major new component.
In recent decades, the party has adopted a centrist economic and socially progressive agenda, with the voter base having shifted considerably. Today, Democrats advocate more social freedoms, affirmative action, balanced budget, and a free enterprise system tempered by government intervention (mixed economy). The economic policy adopted by the modern Democratic Party, including the former Clinton administration, has been referred to as the "Third Way".[16] The party believes that government should play a role in alleviating poverty and social injustice and use a system of progressive taxation.
The Democratic Party, once dominant in the Southeastern United States, is now strongest in the Northeast (Mid-Atlantic and New England), Great Lakes region, and the Pacific Coast (including Hawaii). The Democrats are also very strong in major cities.

Professionals
Professionals, those who have a college education and whose work revolves around the conceptualization of ideas, have supported the Democratic Party by a slight majority since 2000. Between 1988 and 2000, professionals favored Democrats by a 12-percentage point margin. While the professional class was once a stronghold of the Republican Party, it has become increasingly split between the two parties, leaning in favor of the Democratic Party. The increasing support for Democratic candidates among professionals may be traced to the prevalence of social liberal values among this group.[21]
Professionals, who are, roughly speaking, college-educated producers of services and ideas, used to be the most staunchly Republican of all occupational groups... now chiefly working for large corporations and bureaucracies rather than on their own, and heavily influenced by the environmental, civil-rights, and feminist movements began to vote Democratic. In the four elections from 1988 to 2000, they backed Democrats by an average of 52 percent to 40 percent.
A study on the political attitudes of medical students, for example, found that "U.S. medical students are considerably more likely to be liberal than conservative and are more likely to be liberal than are other young U.S. adults. Future U.S. physicians may be more receptive to liberal messages than conservative ones, and their political orientation may profoundly affect their health system attitudes."[22] Similar results are found for professors, who are more strongly inclined towards liberalism and the Democratic Party than other occupational groups.[20] The Democratic Party also has strong support among scientists, with 55% identifying as Democrats, 32% as Independents, and 6% as Republicans and 52% identifying as liberal, 35% as moderate, and 9% as conservative.[23]

Academia
Academics, intellectuals and the highly educated overall constitute an important part of the Democratic voter base. Academia in particular tends to be progressive. In a 2005 survey, nearly 72% of full-time faculty members identified as liberal, while 15% identified as conservative. The social sciences and humanities were the most liberal disciplines while business was the most conservative. Male professors at more advanced stages of their careers as well as those at elite institutions tend be the most liberal.[20] Another survey by UCLA conducted in 2001/02, found 47.6% of professors identifying as liberal, 34.3% as moderate, and 18% as conservative.[24] Percentages of professors who identified as liberal ranged from 49% in business to over 80% in political science and the humanities.[20] Social scientists, such as Brett O'Bannon of DePauw University, have claimed that the "liberal" opinions of professors seem to have little, if any, effect on the political orientation of students.[25][26] Whether or not that is true, some conservatives and Republicans complain they are offended and even threatened by the liberal atmosphere of college campuses. As of July 2008 the Students for Academic Freedom arm of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a conservative organization, posted a list of 440 student complaints, most of which pertain to perceived liberal bias of college professors.
Some attribute the liberal inclination of American professors to the more liberal outlook of the highly educated.[25]
Those with graduate education, have become increasingly Democratic beginning in the 1992,[27] 1996,[27] 2000,[13] 2004,[14] and 2008[28] elections. Intellectualism, the tendency to constantly reexamine issues, or in the words of Edwards Shields, the "penetration beyond the screen of immediate concrete experience," has also been named as an explanation why academia is strongly democratic and liberal.[29][30]

Youth
Studies have shown that younger voters tend to vote mostly for Democratic candidates in recent years. Despite supporting Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, the young have voted in favor of the Democratic presidential candidate in every election since Bill Clinton in 1992, and are more likely to identify as liberals than the general population.[32] In the 2004 presidential election, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry received 54% of the vote from voters of the age group 1829, while Republican George W. Bush received 45% of the vote from the same age group. In the 2006 midterm elections, the Democrats received 60% of the vote from the same age group.[14][15] Polls suggest that younger voters tend to be more liberal than the general population and have more liberal views than the public on same-sex marriage and universal healthcare, helping Barack Obama carry 66% of their votes in 2008. The Young Democrats of America are an affiliated organization of members of the party younger than 36 that advocates for youth issues and works for youth voter turnout.

Working Class
While the American working class has lost much of its political strength with the decline of labor unions,[34] it remains a stronghold of the Democratic Party and continues as an essential part of the Democratic base. Today, roughly a third of the American public is estimated to be working class with around 52% being either members of the working or lower classes.[35][36] Yet, as those with lower socioeconomic status are less likely to vote, the working and lower classes are underrepresented in the electorate. The working class is largely distinguished by highly routinized and closely supervised work. It consists mainly of clerical and blue-collar workers.[35] Even though most in the working class are able to afford an adequate standard of living, high economic insecurity and possible personal benefit from an extended social safety net, make the majority of working class person left-of-center on economic issues. Most working class Democrats differ from most liberals, however, in their more socially conservative views. Working class Democrats tend to be more religious and likely to belong to an ethnic minority. Socially conservative and disadvantaged Democrats are among the least educated and lowest earning ideological demographics. In 2005, only 15% had a college degree, compared to 27% at the national average and 49% of liberals, respectively. Together socially conservative and the financially disadvantaged comprised roughly 54% of the Democratic base.[19] The continued importance of the working class votes manifests itself in recent CNN exit polls, which shows that the majority of those with low incomes and little education vote for the Democratic Party.[13][14][15]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)

Lol...I could go on, but I reached the character limit of the forum.
Apparently, the only people left who actually vote repub or right-wing are the selfish and the racists!

kov62 · Apr 2, 2010

Rapunzel said: ↑

"If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not conservative when you're older, you have no brain."

Author unknown

Truer words were never spoken.
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Winston Churchill I believe

flounder · Apr 2, 2010

RichT2705 said: ↑

Awesome, so where can I sign up for my handouts and affirmative action?
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Forget that Rich, they will tell you YOUR in demand, your going to be labeled;;
SUPER ELITE!!! IN OTHER WORDS,,,,,,,YOU DONT GET CRAP!!!..

Just keep giving Baby!!!!!!!

Consmike · Apr 2, 2010

Surfer Joe said: ↑

More anachronistic nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)

Lol...I could go on, but I reached the character limit of the forum.
Apparently, the only people left who actually vote repub or right-wing are the selfish and the racists!
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Party registration affiliation doesn't matter.

Its the independants who swing center right.

That is why Obama campaigned as some sort of centerist. We all know now that is not true, not one iota.

darckriver · Apr 2, 2010

paco said: ↑

That's not supposed to happen! Minorities are supposed to be poor victims of white racism that need to be helped with socialized programs all the time. The Democrat Party says so!
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Also, if the white population decreases to the point of becoming a "minority" and the Democrats succeed in solving the "income maladjustment problem" (as Henry Waxman put it) they may have to eventually let go of their favorite race of straw men in order to gain a new demographic to loot. Could it actually be possible that in twenty or thirty years the Democrats will be working to convince whites of their racial victim-hood? Watch out Blacks and Hispanics - you may one day wake up and find yourselves the targets of the Looney-Left''s self-serving delusions of "social justice".

pjohns · Apr 2, 2010

Chauncey Gardiner said: ↑

Yes on all counts, however, do you have the percentages of Asians who tend to vote for the more conservative candidate?
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Fair question.

The short answer, however, is that I do not. Just as I do not have the percentage of African-Americans who vote for the more progressive (which is to say, usually, the Democratic) candidate; although, in the latter case, it is safe to say that the overwhelming majority do precisely that.

kov62 · Apr 2, 2010

henryporter said: ↑

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It looks like majority births would drop below 50 percent around 2012, said Carl Haub, senior demographer for the Population Reference Bureau. "
Not good timing to be racist in America.
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The exact opposite may be true as the strategic platform for the Democrat party has been to infuse racial divide for many years now and has worked quite well.

calm2chaos · Apr 2, 2010

I gotta tell ya I have no problem with being on the other end of the government teet for a spell. It's time to do a little gettin because ive been doin a lotta given for many years

Radio Refugee · Apr 2, 2010

Even More Bad News For The Right: White's Likely Below 50% Of Births By 2012
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More like more bad news for America. To sustain the ever expanding nanny state, America will need taxpayers of substantial productive ability. Whites pay wayyyy more taxes per capita than browns and blacks. Not even close.

Good luck finding a replacement for that revenue stream amongst cohorts well filled with HS dropouts and unwed teenage moms.

Radio Refugee · Apr 2, 2010

calm2chaos said: ↑

I gotta tell ya I have no problem with being on the other end of the government teet for a spell. It's time to do a little gettin because ive been doin a lotta given for many years
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I must confess that the temptation is growing as the country tips toward instability. So far I'm able to resist but it could very soon be at a point where only taxpayers are the suckers.

flounder · Apr 2, 2010

Consmike said: ↑

That is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*), as we all know, as people age, and mature, and they learn more, they go from democrat to republican.
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I dont know if that's true for everybody Mike

Grokmaster · Apr 2, 2010

henryporter said: ↑

"Minorities accounted for 48 percent of all births in the nation in the 12 months that ended in July 2008. While it will most likely take years for health statisticians to confirm precisely when the 50 percent benchmark will have been reached, demographers said it could occur this year. Depending on variables like the recession, which has depressed birth rates, it will almost certainly happen within a year or two, they said.

“It looks like ‘majority’ births would drop below 50 percent around 2012,” said Carl Haub, senior demographer for the Population Reference Bureau. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/12census.html

Not good timing to be racist in America.
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Maybe you should change your ways,then,as you are obviously race obsessed.

arjay · Apr 2, 2010

sec said: ↑

how do I classify myself as being a minority?

As being in the top 10 % of wage earners and taxpayers; does that make me a minority?

I am an American as I was born in this country, so I guess that doesn't make me a minority

My ancestors are from Ireland, so that may make me a minority

What makes me a minority?

I voted against socialism in 2008 so I'm a minority in that regard however according to polls I'm now with the majority.

and how does any of the above stuff make me a racist?
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Your location says it all, pal: "Fighting Socialism" = Hatred of Obama Policies = Obvious Racist. Please get with the program!

Grokmaster · Apr 2, 2010

arjay said: ↑

Your location says it all, pal: "Fighting Socialism" = Hatred of Obama Policies = Obvious Racist. Please get with the program!
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Of course! Anyone who opposes socialism and Obama's policies MUST be a racist!!

Dware · Apr 2, 2010

I used to be shocked that libbys thought like the OP.

Surfer Joe · Apr 2, 2010

Consmike said: ↑

Party registration affiliation doesn't matter.
Its the independants who swing center right.
That is why Obama campaigned as some sort of centerist. We all know now that is not true, not one iota.
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Nice backward somersault there after losing the first argument, mickey.
But the facts are that history and life are always against the reactionary mind.
The repubs and right-wingers can go on pining for the good ole days all they want, but the country's demographics are against you, the important issues are against you, the globalization of the world is against you, science is against you, pretty much everything is against you because the world changes and moves forward, not backward.
You people better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone.

Herkdriver · Apr 2, 2010

henryporter said: ↑

"Minorities accounted for 48 percent of all births in the nation in the 12 months that ended in July 2008. While it will most likely take years for health statisticians to confirm precisely when the 50 percent benchmark will have been reached, demographers said it could occur this year. Depending on variables like the recession, which has depressed birth rates, it will almost certainly happen within a year or two, they said.

Not good timing to be racist in America.
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The implication that because a person's political beliefs are right of center,
they are therefore racist...is offensive.

The equivalent of stating that those left of center are cowards and baby killers.

Since we're dealing with stereotypes.

This thread is troll material.

Alarion · Apr 2, 2010

Vote4Future said: ↑

It is more than a slander. It is down right stupidity at its finest! Leave it to the libs! They rarely dissapoint or surprise us with their racism ideals!!
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Hey you guys call the liberals all kinds of crazy names (commie, leftists, marxists, etc)

if the shoe fits...

KSigMason · Apr 2, 2010

henryporter said: ↑

Not good timing to be racist in America.
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So being white automatically makes you racist? Wow, reverse racism is disgusting. I thought we were supposed to judge men by their character not by their color?

darckriver · Apr 2, 2010

Surfer Joe said: ↑

Nice backward somersault there after losing the first argument, mickey.
But the facts are that history and life are always against the reactionary mind.
The repubs and right-wingers can go on pining for the good ole days all they want, but the country's demographics are against you, the important issues are against you, the globalization of the world is against you, science is against you, pretty much everything is against you because the world changes and moves forward, not backward.
You people better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone.
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Nothing reactionary about opposing the Left's nostalgic romance with inferior models of governance. [Talk about reactionary minds...]

Terrapinstation · Apr 2, 2010

Surfer Joe said: ↑

Actually, truth is not slander.
Ever since Nixon and Reagan wooed the disgruntled racist Dixiecrats away from the dems with their code-word demagoguery against civil rights, the right has been the primary repository for racist ideology in the US, pure and simple.
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Proof? Or just more stupid leftist BS?

paco · Apr 2, 2010

KSigMason said: ↑

So being white automatically makes you racist? Wow, reverse racism is disgusting. I thought we were supposed to judge men by their character not by their color?
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I'm curious about HenryPorter's ethnicity now. If he's white, then he's a racist.

pjohns · Apr 2, 2010

Alarion said: ↑

Hey you guys call the liberals all kinds of crazy names (commie, leftists, marxists, etc)
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I refer to leftists as leftists, and to Marxists as Marxists. But I do not use the terms promiscuously. Or inaccurately.

The term "commie" probably hasn't been used by any conservative in the past 45 or 50 years. It is a leftist's caricature of the terminology (allegedly) used by conservatives.

I try to refrain from name-calling--in fact, I almost always use the term, "progressives," rather than"liberals," since the latter has become imbued with some unpleasant connotations; and I prefer to keep my discourse civil.

Do you prefer that also?

Or would you rather just trade insults?

KSigMason · Apr 3, 2010

paco said: ↑

I'm curious about HenryPorter's ethnicity now. If he's white, then he's a racist.
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I guess he could be a self hater.

Roadvirus · Apr 3, 2010

henryporter said: ↑

"Minorities accounted for 48 percent of all births in the nation in the 12 months that ended in July 2008. While it will most likely take years for health statisticians to confirm precisely when the 50 percent benchmark will have been reached, demographers said it could occur this year. Depending on variables like the recession, which has depressed birth rates, it will almost certainly happen within a year or two, they said.

It looks like majority births would drop below 50 percent around 2012, said Carl Haub, senior demographer for the Population Reference Bureau. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/12census.html

Not good timing to be racist in America.
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Is this counting anchor babies? Probably. Taking them out of the equation would reduce the number significantly.

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