Ex-press secretary says ‘paranoid’ Trump had ‘off the books’ meetings to keep details out of archive

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  1. fmw

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    Presidents, just like you and I, need some privacy.
     
  2. Egoboy

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    Yeah, I know... but other people are making that same ridiculous claim, which makes it hard to separate the wheat from the chaff...

    I know you are historically wheat...

    It's the shoot-from-the-hip 24x7 defense of anything T**** did that still pisses me off even today. I can honestly 100% say there have been close to a dozen things over 10 months I disagree with from Biden and his administration, but I rarely see that from the other side.

    It's the old story.... they didn't do it, but even if they did, it's not a big deal...
     
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    What happened? An insurrection is not an insurrection if no one is charged with insurrection, not even one person.
     
  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What meeting was that (Date/Location/Attendees) and how do we know about it?
     
  5. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Generally, when I spend my private time, it's not in meetings planning God knows what...

    Oh right.... election theft...
     
  6. fmw

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    Are you saying that presidents don't deserve some privacy?
     
  7. mdrobster

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    FYI, the investigation is still ongoing.
     
  8. Egoboy

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    Not at all... see my posts 42 and 43...

    Meetings are not a time for "privacy", and I define meeting a > 2 people discussing the same topic

    Are you saying it's OK to have ANY meeting in the WH residence for the purpose of avoiding being officially recorded?
     
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    It is OK with me. My interest is in the sausage, not how it is made. But I understand your point. Every time a meeting goes public, it goes political. It should be OK for the president to meet about things without the overhead of politics.
     
  10. dixon76710

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    January 5th 2020. Susan Rice wrote herself an email 2 weeks later about the meeting. Biden who had denied any knowledge of the FBI investigation into the Trump administration, later admitted that he wasnt directing the investigation but knew that they were "asking for an investigation"
     
  11. Egoboy

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    The correct answer, was No, it's not OK to hold such meetings.

    If official WH business is discussed, that needs to be recorded by LAW (not necessarily released to the public, but recorded)

    If official WH business is not discussed (and administration officials are in attendence), then it will be assumed it was for political purposes (duh) and there is ZERO EP claim possible should anybody disclose specific meetings, attendees and discussions...
     
  12. AmericanNationalist

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    Keep holding onto those pearls. You're going to be disappointed, every time.

    So I'll get to the answer I should've given: Do I find it inappropriate that Trump circumvented the Records Act by choosing to conduct business in an area where it wouldn't be recorded? No, I don't. There's things protected, even today(the JFK files, most infamous example) that have no business being protected anymore. Not only that, but I wouldn't have voted for the 1978 act if I had been alive/a rep/senator at the time.

    I believe that the President, in order to discharge his duties effectively need only be accountable to his executive branch and to Congress at large. If every communication were recorded, we wouldn't be able to hold secret talks, etc.(See: The Ukraine tragedy.) Our geopolitical trustworthiness is in our ability to keep a secret.
     
  13. Egoboy

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    January 5th, 2017... The meeting in the Oval Office, where we know the attendees and the meeting fact was fully disclosed to the public in Feb 2018, after Grassley and Graham made a request to the Archives about meetings between Obama and Comey and were informed of said meeting? Like how it's supposed to work??? THAT meeting?

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...ail-sent-susan-rice-herself-president-trump-s

    Fail for this particular thread... since Barack met with administration officials in the WH and not the private residence....
     
  14. Egoboy

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    For the 30th time, nobody is saying every "communication needs to be recorded". Meeting with administration officials conducted on behalf of the US need to be documented that they happened and who was there.... Not necessarily the conversations themselves
     
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    My bad. 2017. getting my elections mixed up
     
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    FYI, there are already people in jail for 1/6. BTW are you actually asserting the 1/6 investigation has stopped. :)
     
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    Susan Rice intended for the CYA email to be recorded. The only record of the previously undocumented, secret meeting. What fail?
     
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    What’s the big deal?
     
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  19. AmericanNationalist

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    I'm asserting the 1/6 'investigation' will never uncover an insurrection plot, for one never happened or came close to happening. Hence, keep clutching the pearls. We, the USA have moved onto the problems of President Brandon. A worse President than Trump.
     
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    A non voter using the rhetorical "we", and who shuts their eyes regarding 1/6. :)
     
  21. AmericanNationalist

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    I'm not the one subpoenaing somebody who has next to no relevant information to give the committee(were I on it.) But then, I'm the type who looks to answer problems not have a political kangaroo court.
     
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    I vote and I sure as heck want answers. Tough if you don't like it. !!!
     
  23. AmericanNationalist

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    If you want answers, tell the committee to start subpoenaing people who were in charge of security that day, and how to better security. You know, what they originally set out to do.
     
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    Nope, we want the people that put the security in peril to begin with, the instigators, the puppeteers. The egg.
     
  25. AmericanNationalist

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    The DOJ has already come out and said they couldn't find a collaboration, which means this whole exercise is worthless. Do Democrats insist on using the government to target their political opponents instead of solve problems?
     

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