Ex-press secretary says ‘paranoid’ Trump had ‘off the books’ meetings to keep details out of archive

That's the true believers doing true believing

 

Since no sitting president was on a tarmac in a private plane, yours is not only a whataboutism, it's much much worse.... it's a failed logic whataboutism... and it's not easy to bounce back from those...

 

OH HELL NO! Even if his rambling moronic nonsense was recorded the left would really have no problem understanding it once peppermint Patty briefed them of what he tried to say

 

If his brain was a book every other page would be missing

 

An unexpected compliment is certainly a nice, and appreciated boost, for my Monday morning-- thank you for taking the time to express your gratitude.

 

Well, it might be the first time somebody from THAT administration made it public knowledge.... and with suggested motives for doing so...

eh..

 

Two things:

1. How many ex Trump people have claimed a bunch of **** and never have been able to prove it.

2. Do you really think that presidents haven't done this before? Biden does it now. Oops, I guess I don't have any proof of that but, then again, neither does she.

 

His niece has predicted his behavior, especially about not accepting the election loss.

 

No disrespect to her, but that was obvious for months before the election. He had this planned out for months as he knew he was likely to lose

 

More baseless accusations that the left eats up without any critical thought.

Not shocking lol.

Orange man bad, you got em this time!

 

Like everytime a democrat is accused of something?

BUT TRUMP lol.

Though it is true no one is more corrupt than dems regardless of how the far left irrationally chooses to see Trump.

 

Dirty Donald also conducted private phone calls unrecorded as president with other world leaders in direct violation of our laws.

 

Most transparent president in history eh?

 

I gotta tell you right now, were I somehow to magically become da prez tomorrow, I bet the majority of my meetings would be off the books. Not because I was trying to skirt the law but because I'd simply be walking down the halls, see a couple cabinet members, and say "Hey - let's discuss this bill while we're here." I actually think most "meetings" presidents have are like this no matter the party the prez is a member of.

I'd also likely have lots of meetings at this great Italian restaurant a couple miles away from me. And at McDonalds but only while the McRib was here.

 

The only thing thoughtful about it was his not-so-tongue in cheek attempts to insult me. But since Democrats want to cite the law without actually citing it, let's cite it.

https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/presidential-records.html

(1) The term "documentary material" means all books, correspondence, memoranda, documents, papers, pamphlets, works of art, models, pictures, photographs, plats, maps, films, and motion pictures, including, but not limited to, audio and visual records, or other electronic or mechanical recordations, whether in analog, digital, or any other form.

(2) The term "Presidential records" means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, the President’s immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise or assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President. Such term--

(A) includes any documentary materials relating to the political activities of the President or members of the President’s staff, but only if such activities relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President; but

(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) of title 5, United States Code; (ii) personal records; (iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or (iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.

Now, let's take a peek at what the former Press secretary said, and ACTUALLY identify if a violation has occurred.

She said they had 'off the cuff' meetings so as to not create an archive to begin with. Note that the 1978 law does not require you to create an archive, just that if one is created it must be preserved in the records. One would presume this to be obvious, but i apologize to @DEFinning I had forgotten from previous experience that though he insults me his own reading comprehension leaves to be desired.

It is so obvious in fact, that I mentioned the law prior to anyone else in the thread because i *knew* it hadn't been broken.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1233

And PS to @Pro_Line_FL The 2014 doesn't mandate the creation of an archive for every(any) meeting either.

And with that, I bid everyone a good day.

 

I'm going to guess here.... she's selling books? Let me know if I'm wrong and I'll actually check the threat out, if not... lol suckers.

 

Nobody is saying every single conversation the POTUS has in the WH is a recordable event... That's a ridiculous bar that obviously no POTUS in history would be held to.

Read the actual allegation

SNIP
She said that Trump held many meetings in his White House residence, away from where the president fulfills official duties.

"Because the president at the time was so paranoid of leaks ... a lot of meetings took place in the residence," she said.
ENDSNIP

If the POTUS is walking down the halls of the RESIDENCE part of the White House and sees cabinet members just hanging there in case there might be a meeting, I think there are even bigger issues..

If it's true (which we both know it is), that was ongoing premeditative evasive bullshit and you know it.

 

See post #42... I think most people would agree that anything that happens in the residence part of the WH is off limits to recording presidential activity.... A POTUS is entitled to having hours offline to sleep and spend time with your wife/husband and children (Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha).

If true, do YOU actually think holding ANY "meetings" in the RESIDENCE is a good idea? What else would be the purpose of such a meeting, other than avoiding recording? It's not like the POTUS has a huge commute to get to his working space (although I suspect exposing T**** to excessive stair use could be considered cruel and unusual).

If this allegation is true, it's a loophole in the law T**** found and exploited.. it's what he does... sorry... it's what he DID during his single term... Now, because of this story, some law might have to be created that a POTUS CANNOT conduct any Presidential Business (spelled out in nauseating detail) in the RESIDENCE, whereas this was just assumed before.

I suspect part of the problem here is that you didn't read past the thread title... the problem is not "off the books" meetings... the problem is where the meetings were being held.... the headline buried the lead.

 

I think those meetings may not be covered by executive privilege

 

Slippery slope... Also, since there's no official record of these meetings (who was there and what was said), it's doubtful any committee would ever know about them and be able to request information about them requiring an EP claim. It's also possible these meetings were about legit US business (possible but HIGHLY unlikely), and thus eligible for an EP claim even if the meetings were known about.

True Win/Win for the cabal....

 

So, you got nuttin.

 

You ARE aware that the post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, right? I figured the McRib reference was a giveaway.

 

Yeah like how the niece predicted the stolen election junk would lead to the 1/6 insurrection is nothing.

Pretending to ignore what happened doesn't make an argument.

 

EP applies to the Office and 'business' on behalf of the American people and America. It's not for personal gain or crimin'.

 

VP Joe, Obama, Brennan , Comey, Lynch and others did the same thing when Comey was asking the President for an investigation of the Trump campaign.