Fast Food workers declare minimum wage "unlivable"

of course minimum wage isn't "livable" in most regions. I don't care if you're single or have a family. The issue is, should it be a livable wage? If yes, then who determines the criteria? Does a mom with children get paid more than a single person? Should we simply pay each individual based upon their needs?
Are the owners of small businesses exempted from paying themselves the livable wage so they can be paid less? Small biz owners tend not to make a lot of money and with a few employees getting more wages, the small biz owner would need to be able to accept $1 per hour (or less) as their wage and not get in trouble

 

Then it wouldn't to that hard on you to pay a little more and have the people making that food able to pay their bills!

Yeah, in Europe, that's what we do! [/sarcasm]

It might well be, but if you followed the conservative doctorine, you'd be able to afford to spend a little more on your lunch.

 

get a clue.

 

Plenty of jobs out there on sites like careerbuilder. If they don't like being a low wage mustard squirter....they should seek something else. Anyone who thinks that squirting mustard on the patty is going to give them a comfy retirement needs to wake up now while they have time.

 

And,...
Who are responsible for 70% of all violent crime in America.

The Minimum Wage paid to responsible people who add to the economic prosperity must be seen as competing with Welfare.

Women who opt to marry and raise children as good citizens with their husband must see a wage and job security for that husband which competes with Welfare Benefits that are now staggeringly high.
There are 69 different possible benefits, one including $450/mo for your child if qualified for Special Education.
Kids being "dumb" is now smart for the parents have Social Workers who inform and encourage benefits which the general public does not know about, nor can they find out what those benefits are unless they qualify for them.

 

No thank you. Those same people aren't volunteering to chip in on my student loans or cigarettes. We all make our own path.

Well then, I'm a bit puzzled why you seemed oblivious to the concept of a quick lunch break. typically 30 minutes.

I could spend more, that's not the issue. The issue is how much is a burger worth? It simply isn't worth much more than I pay now. In a society that applauds me being taxed again, and again, and again on my choices....I see no reason for me to chip in to pay for their lack of motivation.

 

Completely agree with the concept, but the problem is that people are often being forced to take these types of jobs because often the jobs many trained for are unavailable. To make matters worse many employers are only accepting people who have long term experience in certain fields, or if they see you've been flippin burgers automatically put you at the bottom of the application pile.

America made a huge mistake in allowing it's manufacturing base to be plundered by 3rd world countries. The consumer class of America is dying out, and it's all the the feet of the corporate lobbyists and those politicians who were so easily bought (because it was both dems and repubs who whored out our country for the sake of cheap trinkets.)

 

Oh nice retort buddy! I post, refecting on the unreasonable expectations of Wall Street and how this results in company renumeration policy, you say "get a clue".

You're a smart cookie!

 

What happened in 1960 was that Feminists revolted and entered the Unskilled Work Force in droves.
This enlarged Labor Force drove wages down through attrition over time.

Before 1965, the Minimum Wage was doubling every ten years, as it ought, since normal real inflation is 7% annually.
Since 1965, the raises in Minimum Wage have not kept pace with this rule, and have doubled onky every 15-18 years.
Essentially, employers have been getting both Mom and Dad for the wage once paid to just the man of the house.

This is part of the Welfare problem.
It is a good part of the demise of Marriage and the end of the Family as the foundation for a safe sound nation.

 

So tell us: how in the hell are businesses going to make a profit if they have to deal with the costs of Obamacare?

BH Obama doesn't want the economy to grow and get stronger. He wants the economy to limp along, adding more and more people to government dependence so that they are beholding to the dems who exempt themselves fro Obamacare.

 

Sp the job market isn't any where near as bad as US conservatives say... when they're slamming Obama?

Which is it?

 

When you are starting from a slot like mustard squirter....there are many more options to move up than might be available to others. You are effectively at the bottom.

 

Because I make my own sandwiches and eat fruit and nuts and a homemade smoothie? I take 30 mins for lunch, as do everyone I work with.

Please quit with the silly stereotype that Europeans take 2-3 hour lunches.

I see adverts of 1 euro hamburgers from McD's. I would say that this is far too little for a hamburger.

As usual, the conservative mind kicks in... waxing lyrical about the problems and outright refusing to be part of the solution.

 

"These people" know that doubling or tripling their wages is not going to harm them. They know they can force fast-food owners to pay them whatever they have the cojones to demand. And they also know the owners are not going to cut back their hours because of Obamacare.

Fast food workers are underestimated. An increasing number of fast-food workers have university degrees in the "culinary arts." They are educated! A drive-thru employee at Wendy's for example, might have a master's degree in culinary arts and should command a high salary and benefits. At least $100,000 a year would be appropriate.

 

I agree, the problem is that you've managed very well to kill the working classes, now the middle classes and people still want to and need to work. And what jobs are left? Do you want fries with that answer?

 

Prices will just rise to cover the costs.
In a way, this will be good for the Fe Budget and the Economy, since when Prices rise, the GNP looks larger.
Things cost more, so denominated in dollars, the economy seems to have grown.

Taxes are essentially based upon the GNP, usually represent @20% of GNP.
More Taxes collected, less borrowing from China.

However, unless Minimum Wage also increases, higher prices will mean fewer people can purchase stuff, and the GNP will remain unchanged.

Remember that when the Min Wage rises, all workers get a raise too in order to

 

We need to legislate that corpoorations MUST MINIMIZE THEIR PROFITS.

That'll fix it.

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You're the natural replacement for Bloomberg. NYC needs you.

 

Wow! You really put some thought into that didn't you! Although most of that thought I suspect went into the "corpoorations" part...

McDonalds made 1.2Bn in it's quarterly review. Very poor indeed. How they manage is beyond me!

And no, I did not say anything about legislation of profits at all - that part was in your overly imaginative mind.

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Yet another gem. You're as shart as a razor!

 

The way economics works is that Demand for things people really want and are going to get sparks suppliers (employers) to make a profit selling to them.
They need labor to do this.
When the Demand is strong at high prices, high wages are paid and that attracts workers like a gold mine.

The central problem in America today is lack of Demand.

The reasons are partly Politicians media attention to the present bad news of this depression, the bank failures, gloom, and fear.
Plus, people in America have so much they can coast and reduce expenses and get by without chancing long term obligations for unnecessary stuff.

All America has to fear is fear itself, because it lowers Demand.

Solution:
Raise everyone pay check w\by starting with Min wage.

 

The bottom should still pay enough to cover the Rent/Food/Clothing/Health Ins of a family, at least as well as the Welfare or SSI society does not want to encourage or enlarge.

Paying $1Trillion dollars annually in Welfare is really just an alternative to a $3.00 Kids Meal instead of the present $1.00..

 

And McDonald's corp doesn't pay the burger flippers, cashiers and drive through attendants. The franchise owners do. The franchise owners are small business owners and there are probably many that pay themselves less then some of their employees at times. I knew the owner of the McDonald's franchise in the small town near where I grew up. He was no millionaire. Understand the business before you criticize it.

 

The "solution" to this "problem" lies with those working there. The liberal mind once again, and it's complete lack of understanding of personal responsibility, wants everyone else to chip in so the hamburger flipper can bring home the same check as the auto mechanic....please.

It's simply not everyone elses problem Leffe. If they do not like the conditions that they volunteered to work under...careerbuilder.

 

Why should it? Who determines this?
I don't believe anyone ever intended these jobs to be long term "careers". These were traditionally, extra money jobs...or school jobs. They simply weren't meant for raising a family on.

 

And that small business pays McD's??? Amma right? And McD's 1.2 Bn comes from these small business owners? Amma right? *Rolls eyes*

What if.... juuuurst what if, McD's reduces the amount of money it expects from these small businesses, liberating their capital to pay their workers more? WOW! It's financial magic!!!!

Perhaps you should learn to think about what you type as you type it?

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Stop lying! Stop making stuff up! You're only making yourself look silly.