Florida fines businesses for demanding medical information from customers

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Yes a lot of people like business being told by govt how to function. They used to be called commies
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad Ron DeSantis is fining this scum and I hope more States follow suit.

    No amount of word play will change my mind
     
  3. FreshAir

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    Trump declared a national emergency, and we are in the middle of a pandemic and Trump supporters trying to make it last longer and longer
     
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    another case DeSantis will lose
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well I think most people that live are glad the government tells businesses how to function.

    Because of the government oversight restaurants aren't allowed to sell painted food they're not allowed to be open with collapsing structure. I'm not allowed to operate a boiler if it's unsafe I think most people agree with these things.

    Our country is not in Arco capitalist I'm sorry you don't get to live that way.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if it means life insurance companies can't ask for health information, all for it

    as I had cancer, be nice not to have to tell them
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure a business can be fined for refusing to serve someone because they're gay or because they're Jewish seems like there's a precedent for anti-discrimination laws
     
  8. Polydectes

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    Have fun with that.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump required all his employees to be tested and tell their status, say what, is that not private medical info

    and drug test, oh no, businesses can no longer get those medical results
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, no way DeSantis wins this, but fun to think about the precedent it would set if he did
     
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    in a pandemic, they can definitely refuse service of people putting others in danger
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Simply by being in proximity to another person you're putting them in danger so if that's the way they feel they need to close.

    Vaccinated people can still spread the virus.
     
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    yes, but letting you enter without being vaccinated puts you at risk, maybe they have you sign a form saying you will not hold them liable
     
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    What in the world is happening with free market conservatism??? :confusion: Trump has permanently broken the party. Why are conservatives cheering on bigger government imposing fines on businesses for legal business decisions. You have full control over your medical records. If you do not want to disclose them simply do not go to that business. That is how capitalism works. You don't like a business policy you are free to take your business elsewhere. When did we go crying for big government to impose policy changes on a business?
     
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    The vaccinated are just as likely to carry the virus as those unvaccinated. Therefore this hysteria to "out" or "punish" those not vaccinated has no logical reasoning. This is discrimination at this point.

    Good for Florida.
     
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  16. Polydectes

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    You not aware there are laws governing businesses? Free market conservatism doesn't mean anarchy and it never meant that.

    There have been laws on the books regarding discrimination for decades.
     
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    No shoes, no shirt, no masks, no vaccine, no service. Why is this difficult for antivaxxists to grasp?
     
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    This is garbage. They are NOT discriminating against a protected group.
     
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    It isn't it's difficult for you to grasp you don't get to say no vaccine no service in Florida that's like saying no Jewish or no black people.
     
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    In Florida they are this lies to protect them so they've just reached protected group status in Florida.

    Protecting people from vaccine Nazis is a good use of government.
     
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    Please stop this garbage. You are just making conservatives look bad. They are not discriminating against black people simply because blacks are unvaccinated at a higher percentage than other racial groups. Their race has nothing to do with the business refusing service.
     
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    Antivaxxists are not a protected group. You must try again.
     
  23. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    what making points you can't argue against and that's the point of debate I'm not sure if you're aware of that.
    what by making good arguments that you can't counter. Case in point you're not focusing on my argument you're trying to shame me into not making it

    You people have gone crazy with this covid stuff and the only way to stop your craziness is to start fining you.
    It doesn't matter.

    Bring a certain period in US history a majority of blacks were considered to be illiterate and one of the things they did to try and stop them from voting was to make up literacy tests.

    Finding other ways to discriminate against black people is still discriminating against black people if it had nothing to do with a race then it wouldn't have anything to do with a raise and I wouldn't be able to make this argument.
     
  24. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I've never once in my life gone into a business that demanded to see my measles vaccine or polio vaccine.

    So when insane authoritarians think that this is a way to force people to capitulate it is our government's duty to stop them.

    If people don't want to get the vaccine that's their business you can call them all the names you want.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If you are a conservative and you support this nonsense you should look bad and I want you to.

    It isn't conservative to let leftist authoritarians get away with something just because they can play a little gotcha game by turning your beliefs around on you that you don't even hold.
     

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