"Gay Marriage Will Lead To Pedophiles Marrying Children", Says Conservative

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What Will Same Sex Marriage Lead To?

  1. Pedophiles marrying children

    7.8%
  2. Polygamy

    15.7%
  3. People marrying objects, such as their car, or a fence

    2.0%
  4. It will lead to nothing at all

    80.4%
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  1. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    Cut that out. You're not helping.
     
  2. Daybreaker

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    That's nuts. Did allowing interracial marriage suddenly lead to pedophilia? No. But being attracted to someone of a different ethnicity was just as frowned upon and just as contentious -- and just as commonplace and unacknowledged, incidentally -- back in the day as homosexuality is now.

    What you're saying makes no logical sense. You can legally prohibit sex with minors on grounds that have nothing to do with sexuality. If you can't see that, then you're the one in favor of pedophilia because you're the one elevating it to the level of normal sexuality -- and homosexuality is normal sexuality. I know that bothers people but it seems to just be the reality of the situation.
     
  3. Neodoxy

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    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html
    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html

    What a joke, that's exactly what it has lead to in other countries isn't it? Nothing will happen, gay people will be allowed to get married, maybe eventually polygamy will be allowed but unless there's a large and radical shift, that would be primarily unrelated to homosexuals, then that's going to be a long time coming if it ever does happen and nothing else will come about.
     
  4. Daybreaker

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    Tyranny.

    No, it's because we have an obligation as adults to protect children. I don't believe sex is evil, but I do think that all responsible adults will agree that sex is dangerous. Too dangerous for kids. Sort of like driving.

    Yes, the mental power of discrimination is vital. But if you can't discriminate between the reason homosexuality has been vilified and the reason pedophilia is disallowed then you're not really using that power.
     
  5. LibertarianFTW

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    It might eventually lead to polygamy which should be completely legal.
     
  6. yguy

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    That is what acceptance of "gay marriage" is.
    Only from the perspective of those whose understanding of human nature is disgracefully shallow.

    If you can be made to believe one lie, you can be made to believe any lie.
     
  7. Neodoxy

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    Gay marriage isn't a lie it's an action, if you believe that homosexuals should be allowed to marry then there's no reason why you don't understand human nature. If you're saying that there would indeed be a sudden shift towards pedophilia think about this, Loving V. Virginia happened in 1967, it's only now that we're talking about homosexual marriage and that's between consenting adults and has a lot of emotional factors going for it, I doubt that the social order will ever be challenged enough to allow for child/adult marriage to be acceptable, it would have to be a massive shift when right now it's the height of sickness.
    As for homosexual marriage being "radical", right now to men or women can do ANYTHING they want to and most states provide some sort of "partnership", the only thing that homosexual marriage then would do is to make it national and mean the signing of a sheet of paper. That's all that would change beyond some census results and tax structures.
     
  8. Daybreaker

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    Little vague. Can you explain more, please?
     
  9. yguy

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    It most certainly is, because there is no such thing as same sex marriage and never will be, legislation to the contrary notwithstanding. It is the sociological equivalent of claiming 1/0 has a real quotient.
     
  10. IrishLefty

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    Homosexuals are not perverts. The vast majority of homosexuals don't want to be in a pederastic relationship.
     
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    Then all it means is that you are using a different definition of the word marriage.
    Their 0 is equal to your 2, and therefore the equation comes out to equal .5, so to speak.
     
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    Do you oppose gay marriage?
     
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    Who are you to say that there is no such thing?
     
  14. yguy

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    Who do I need to be to bear witness to a self-evident truth?
     
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    And this self evident truth is what?
     
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    You need to ask specific questions, or raise specific objections.
     
  17. yguy

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    If you could find it in you to ease up on the contrived stupidity, that would be great.
     
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    Same sex marriage will probably lead to men marrying men and women marrying women. That'd be my guess.

    But you know what conservatives say about freedom, correct?
     
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    Seems liberals love to overgeneralize...a lot.
    Its nothing new.
    Fact is, homosexuals, just like others, can adopt just fine without being married, so neither homosexuality nor their marriage has anything with pedophilia or raising a child in general.
    But please, lets all stick with fact, or we come across as hypocrites.

    Sincerely, a Con.
     
  20. Daybreaker

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    What depth of understanding of human nature do you possess that is making mine shallow by comparison? 'Cause I'm not understanding you.

    What lie?

    And we've all believed lies at one time or another, so any of us can be made to believe any lie, can't we?
     
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    Actually, I don't know what you are referring to friend. However, you failing to answer my questions leads me to suspect this obvious factor does not exist.
     
  22. yguy

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    Since I wasn't addressing you, the question makes no sense - not that it would in any case.
    In this case, the idea that two people of the same sex can be married.
    Believing a lie out of naivete is one thing; being made to believe it, quite another.

    Not my problem.
    You presume way too much.
     
  23. LibertarianFTW

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    I oppose government endorsed marriage -- straight or gay. However, if the government is to endorse marriage, it has no right to discriminate based on sexual orientation, etc.
     
  24. Daybreaker

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    But why is that idea a lie? Gay couples get married all the time. Goes pretty much like any other wedding. They stand in front of a priest or a judge and maybe some other people and then someone with some kind of official status in these matters says, "You're married!" and boom, they're married.

    Same-sex marriages have occurred throughout history. But now we have these revisionists trying to say that never happened.
     
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    Yguy,

    Understand I don't mean to anger you dude. No offence, but you have been pressed to admit what this self evident proof supporting your argument is. We are attempting to have a dialogue, but when we ask you to reveal key information you refuse. We must therefore assume it does not exist and that there is no valid argument against gay marriage. Understand I don't mean to anger you dude.
     

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