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Insurrection of the vassals?
But most recently the Germans did not dare even look into the eyes of the Americans. But what do we see today? - insurrection of the vassals. And this is only the beginning. Soon all the rats will flee from the "American ship".

What do you think about it?

 

WoW...

Your analyses are wrong. It is not an "insurrection of the vassals". Over 6,000 German companies do business with Russia; over 10% of all German companies are trading with Russia; but of course US sanctions on Russia are bad for German business - just the auto industry is losing billions!

So, Merkel is just airing the fears of German businesspeople, and rightly so.

 

The Europeans are pissed that we know have a real leader in the White House, one who will stand up for the people who elected him, and not pander to our European "allies".

Let them jump ship. They will come crawling back when scary Putin looks their way

 

I think it shows Merkel only rents German loyalties. Outspoken critic of US nationalism, she's openly advancing German protectionism. Merkel is no better than Erdogan in many regards.

 

Yes. For example, Mercedes is building a plant to produce cars near Moscow. Siemens, BASF, and others are working in Russia....And spit on the sanctions.

My comment is the irony. Because I have never heard such a rhetoric of a European country in relation to the United States. And I see in this a lot of interesting things.

 

I think this is the beginning of the end of the EU and the WTO.

 

Merkel is willing to destroy anything she cannot control. EU, WTO, IMF, NATO ....

 

Isn't Merkel affraid of Russian influence? So much opportunity for collusion and election interference! Liberal hysteria over all things Russia, has gotten completely out of hand. Obama was asleep at the gates, and for all the alarm the left has raised, no ones bothered to simply lock the gates ...

 

The USA should impose a 35% tariff against German imports and ban Volkswagon products for their conspiracy and actions circumventing EPA regulations to give them a competitive edge against American automobiles.

 

Merkel, an East German, was a Russian agent - and still is.

 

Just let your atomobiles go, already. You make delightful houses on wheels, the cars - not so much. There is not many sights as sorry as native autoprom that struggles against foreign competitiors, trust me from personal experience.

 

Maybe scary Putin won't be looking westwards when Nato stops facing its guns towards them. The latest sanctions are meant to hurt Russia economically by blocking North Stream II, and to force the EU to buy gas from the US at a higher price. It is extortion, and Russia is now looking to the Chinese banks to finance the pipe line. If Merkel goes along with Washington again rather than looking after their own self interests, they will soon be a Chinese colony.

As far as the other sanctions go, up until now the US hasn't lost anything while Russia lost 90 billion compared to the EU which lost 150 billion. When they were first imposed, I wondered if the intent was more to hurt the EU than Russia. It certainly looks that way.

As for Russia, the sanctions turned out to be very beneficial. Putin used them as an excuse to embargo EU goods and establish self sufficiency in everything... which they did. Among everything else it is now self sufficient in pork and chickens and will soon be exporting them, and has built quite a few greenhouses for fruits vegetables.

The development in agriculture and industries did not go as fast as Putin would have liked because of the high interest rates that were meant to curb inflation... a problem that is now solved and which caused quite a bit of controversy at the time.

As for the EU, the ones that suffered the most, and will continue to suffer are the poorer nations. With Russia's self sufficiency, they have lost that market for good. It's well deserved for the Russiaphobe nations such as Poland, but not the others who wanted to maintain good relations with Moscow. It's one of the causes of dissension among the EU. I still give the EU a two year survival rate.

 

German cars are now ridiculously overpriced crap designed to breakdown for the profits of repairs and parts. Japanese cars a generally high quality and well built, but American cars and trucks again are the best buy all the way around.

Volkswagen grew by outright criminality and fraud on a mass scale and should be permanently banned from the USA.

 

Nobody in Europe is scared about Putin or Russia in general. We deal with them longer than your country exist. And will continue to do so when your country is gone anways.

 

Merkel is a globalist and a liberal one world order freak. This is why she believes in open borders. Like all of Soros' globalists, she believes in supermenchen nations and untermenchen nations, and wants Germany to be in control of as many countries as it can. This is why she keeps inviting more and more poor nations into the EU with the promise of bettering their condition... when they only end up as debtor nations for Germany's benefit.

Rather than creating a different monetary system for the Mediterranean nations so they can get out of debt, she and Brussels have been imposing austerity on them so as to hinder their economic growth and maintain control.

Trump is hated by the EU because he won't go along with their liberal one world order, and Vladimir Putin is hated because he too won't accept the liberalism the globalists want to impose on the world.

 

Germany will be merely a state of the Empire of Islam, but many Germans don't care about Germany's future since many Germans have no children.

The historic relationship between Germany and Russia is a curious one. It was Stalin who enabled Hitler to undertake WWII and then Germany double crossed Russia. If history proves anything about Germany, it is to never, ever, trust the German government. Historically, there also is a ego-mania and race based fanatical side of German culture that often leads to German destructiveness and self destruction.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/08/27/russias-love-affair-with-germany/

In your messages, you have boasted that Germany is superior to the USA because Germany is more white (ironic, since indigenous white Germans will be the minority in the future) and bragged how Germans ran WalMart out of the country because male employees smiled, which you claim meant they are gay because German men don't smile. It is bizarre and endless ethnic/racial viewpoints and overtones of German society that is dangerous to all, including to Germans themselves in the long run.

 

Europe has been far harder hit by the sanctions than the US. Basically it is taking the pain. When you add to that that May and friends are determined not to get a good deal with the EU, that also could hit Germany. Her response seems rational even without the possible extra hit from the UK.

 

I do not think the sky is going to fall tomorrow but, this is yet another sign of the slow decline of the US economic empire.

Rather than do what we need to compete in the third millennium we are trying to compensate for our lack of competitiveness by messing with the invisible hand.

Our ability to project power through economic might is waning. Rather than up our game we are trying to live into the "necessary illusion" that our power is much greater than it is.

 

You are absolutely right. ... By the way, Russia has already signed a multi-year contract for the supply of food to China. Very large volumes. Very profitable. China is 1.5 billion people.Everyone wants to eat.

 

I think in the near future Germany and Russia need to make a deal. Both sides wont give up on Ukraine. So i guess it will be divided.

 

It already is divided, thanks to coup and actions of post-coup government.

If you forgot, they had the elected president overthrown, riots in capital, atrosities in regions, and currently are in state of civil war. I have hard times imagining country being more divided than that.

 

I think Germany should look out for its own economic interests and rebel like hell against the insanity of my gov't who is waging economic war against Russia. American hegemony makes me sick, and is nothing but the greed and evil of those men who rule over the American people using their bought and paid for puppets in DC.

I just wish this American empire would hurry up and implode so we get some principles and morality back in my gov't which today is not by and for the people but by and for a small group of sociopathic elites. My gov't today thinks they are above international law and basic morality.

 

And some nuts act as if the US CIA was not involved up to the eyeballs in this coup. You can even hear on you tube Nuland talking about who we were gonna put into power. And yet so many of us remain willfully ignorant.

 

He promised to stand up for the people who elected him. But he has already flip flopped on his foreign policy promises. Granted some of it is due to the neocons in both parties and the self interests of the deep state to keep the increasing funding which a new cold war with Russia will bring them...so they have more to waste, and more money to expand their power and influence. But if trump were to sign these new sanctions he sure as hell is not standing up for the people who elected him. He is operating against their own best interests. Just like Obama did.